Explanation of The Trinity,Invalidity of Heresies

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presentation of the doctrine of trinity:

presentation of the doctrine of trinity By Vladimir Susic

WHO ARE THE BELIEVERS IN THIS DOCTRINE:

WHO ARE THE BELIEVERS IN THIS DOCTRINE Well,of course,the first followers of Christ,his apostles,the disciples of his apostles and the early Chruch,when we look at Today’s Denominations,we see that over 98% of those who claim to be Christian believe in this doctrine,I will list some of the most attended Chruches in the World. The Catholic Church The Eastern Orthodox Church(Including the Copts) Assyrian Church Most Protestant denominations (Of course,not all of The Churches are listed here) In this presentation I will also seek to show why Trinitarian interpretation of The Scripture is the only valid one.

The Statement of Belief:

The Statement of Belief The Statement of The Belief in The Trinity is found in The Niceno-Constantinopolean Creed and the Athanasian Creed. We can see some the Chruch Fathers stating the Belief ,like for example Justin The Martyr in 150 A.D. Ignatius too,who is an Apostolic Father,a disciple of John,in 107 A.D. It was defended at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D. against the Arian heresy,but more on that later.

Short Definition:

Short Definition Since both of the Creeds stated in the previous slide are way too long to post,I will sum it up in a very short sentence,then explain each part of it. There is one God in whom are three eternal, distinct, simultaneously existing persons--the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. All three are the one God, coeternal, coequal.

Explanation Part 1:

Explanation Part 1 As stated previously,we believe in exactly ONE GOD.(Isaiah 44:6,Deutoronomy 6:4,4:35,James 2:19,1 Corinthians 8:6 etc.) We believe that This ONE GOD is Tri- Personal,that is,he exists as 3 Persons .(Matthew 28:19,John 20:28,1 Corinthians 8:6,Psalm 139:7 etc.) To explain this,I will look at us,humans . We,exists as one person that is,one MIND,one Consciousness,so one person is one consciousness. I am conscious as Vladimir,I,the person of Vladimir,control my,HUMAN body. The same way is in the Trinity,only that there are 3 Persons,3 Minds that control this -Divine Spiritual “Body”-(John 4:24),They are The Father,The Son and The Holy Spirit,3 Persons yet One God.

Explanation Part 2:

Explanation Part 2 These 3 persons are Always in perfect Agreement,for they are indeed One God. Neighter of these persons is older than another,They have all existed for eternity,none of Them are mightier than Another,they are again,the same Almighty God. However one person might choose to submit itself to another in perfect agreement so that an Action can be performed,for example,Jesus came in the world as a Human and therefore chose,as a perfect human should,to submit to the Father.

Distinction-Arianism,Semi Arianism,Sabellianism and why these doctrines are invalid :

Distinction- Arianism,Semi Arianism,Sabellianism and why these doctrines are invalid The belief in the Trinity must be distincted from Arianism,Semi-Arianism and Sabellianism,also known as Oneness Pentacostalism . Arianism is NOT TO BE CONFUSED with Semi- Arianism,the belief that JW’s hold onto. Arians believe that There are 3 Divine Persons of One God,The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit,however The Father and The Son,and perhaps even the Spirit according to some are not Homousias (of the same nature) but HomouIsias (of similar nature) They Also believe that at one point in time The Son (and again,The Holy Spirit according to some Arians) were created and Then God created the Heavens and The Earth.

Arianism-INVALID:

Arianism -INVALID Not only that this doctrine is a plain insult to our Eternal Lord Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit but is also plain and simple Polytheism. You cannot claim that there exist one God if that God is not one Divine Spirit (John 4:24) but 3 distinct,similar divine bodies,simply does not work,Indeed,they can all be divine,however,they are 3 divine bodies,not one . It was refuted by Athanasius,the champion defender of The Trinity at the Council of Nicea . Arianism is Also Clearly scripturaly invalid. They believe that The Father and the Son are both Yahweh,hmm,ok,but What does Yahweh claim? Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. The Lord is eternal,the first and the last. They rightfuly believe that Jesus is The Angel of The Lord of The OT. Ok,great,but they just signed their death sentence here,what does The Angel say in Exodus 3:14? Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Hmm,Ego Eimi HO ON,I am that I am,the statement of ETERNALITY,interesting,here are some more devastating things for Arianism . Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. God exists eternaly,from everlasting to everlasting,Arianism just invalidated itself by claiming that Jesus is Yahweh yet claiming that he is not eternal. Refutation of Semi Arianism will Also Apply to Arianism .

Semi Arianism-Belief:

Semi Arianism -Belief Semi Arians believe that Father is the only person that is YHWH,they believe that The HS is not a person but a manifestation of power(The HS’s personhood will be defended later) of The Father and that The Son is not God but a first created being of God who then created all things . They are an offshoot of Arianis m . They have gigantic problems in claiming this. Christ clearly said in John 8:24-I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. If they believe not that Christ is indeed the I AM,the everlasting God,they will die in their sins. But here I will present a Standard Trinitarian refutation of Semi Arianism that has haunted them ever since they started spewing their lies,and will haunt them until they turn to truth.

Semi Arianism-INVALID,Devastating Refutation:

Semi Arianism-INVALID,Devastating Refutation The devastating refutation of Semi Arianism comes from Isaiah 44:24,where it says- Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; Here,in this verse we see that YAHWEH is they one who ALONE created the Heavens and The Earth,NOT that he created someone to create them. They can eighter Accept that Christ is GOD or say that he did not create The Heavens and The Earth,which would Require denial of the NT,so they are cut down by one verse. Most far any Semi Arian has gotten in trying to refute this argument is Greg Stafford who tried to assert that Isaiah 44:24 is stating that God created everything alone,that is,without any idols helping him,because of the verse 9,where it says They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed. However he is doomed,because already as stated his interpretation is very weak,but is destroyed once we look at Job 9:8-9 -Which ALONE spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number. -Where without any context of idols the same thing is stated,so our interpretation that God indeed shows his power in that he creates all things ALONE,he needs no helper,that he is much greater than any idol who cannot create anything,let alone create evertything is valid. So clearly,in 2 different contexts same thing is stated,Semi Arianism is destroyed,God Alone is The Creator,not God and someone he Created. So what do we get here when we look at The NT? Now let’s put a final nail in the coffin of Semi Arianism,3 more verses,2 from OT,one from NT. 146:5-6 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God: Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever: Hmm,so it is YAHWEH,who creates the Heavens and The Earth,AND ALL IN THEM,ok,keeping in mind that God did this ALONE,let’s see what Jesus does,according to Paul,what does Jesus Do? Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Wait,they don’t believe Jesus is Yahweh? HAHAHA-DECIMATED

Sabellianism-INVALID:

Sabellianism -INVALID Sabellianism as known to the Early Chruch Fathers and Oneness Pentacostalism as known to us today is a belief that 3 Persons of The Trinity,The Father,The Son and The Holy Spirit,are not in fact 3 persons but The Same person(mind) of One God that only manifests itself in 3 different Forms. This belief was decimated by The Early Chruch Father Tretullian in his “Against Praxeas ”. It is refuted plainly in the Bible where we have even Before The Creation,2 persons facing eachother,remember,Their belief is that ONE PERSON,takes different forms when needed,for humans. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God( kai ho logos EN PROS ton theon,literally,and the Word was FACE TO FACE with God), and the Word was God . So if creation takes place in the verse 3,why does God already take a form of Logos and face HIMSELF??? In the verse one? In John 8 Jesus reasons with The Jews,he says, John 8:14-18 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me . So here 2 PERSONS bear Testimony,THE FATHER AND THE SON,One person cannot bear witness of 2 persons,in fact Jesuses entire justification is because there is someone else that bears witness of him,his Judgement is true because of that,one witness can not be 2 witnesses,yet Christ says that HE and HIS FATHER are 2 witnesses,oneness pentacostalism obliterated. Effectivly here,eighter Christ is a liar and only bears witness of himself,or they are wrong,well,they are wtong .

“Biblical Unitarianism”:

“Biblical Unitarianism” These people believe that Father is Only Person that is God,that Jesus is just an oridinary human and that HS is an active force of The Father and not a Person Himself. Apsolutely blasphemous. First let’s prove that HS is a person. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption . Hmm,well we can not grieve an active force,we can only grieve A PERSON,a conscious PERSON and in that they are done,however,let’s demonstrate through interaction of HS that he is not just an active force,but a true person in all its glory. Romans 8:26-27 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God . Woah,woah,woah,Not only do we see the Trinity here,but utter refutation of the position that HS is not A person. So HS intercedes for us in prayer,To God the Father,well,if he is just an active force,how does he intercede,intercession here means that The HS PARYS FOR US,how can an active FORCE pray?NO A PERSON CAN PRAY! But not only that,here we see that HS HAS A MIND,WHAT??? HS HAS A MIND!!!! Well Person=Mind so there goes their position. But not only that,here we see 3 Persons,He who searches the hearth(Jesus) The HS and The Father,who’s is this will. But wait,why would Paul even MENTION that Jesus knows The Mind of the Spirit if the Spirit is just an active force that has no mind. Hehehehe We won’t even discuss the Divinity of Jesus here since it is more than Clear from the previous parts of this Presentation and from other presentations that I made.

Sum Up:

Sum Up We Believe in One God .(Isaiah 44:6,Deutoronomy 6:4,4:35,James 2:19,1 Corinthians 8:6 etc.) He is Tripersonal,that Is There are 3 minds and yet only one Divine Spiritual Body.( Matthew 28:19,John 20:28,1 Corinthians 8:6,Psalm 139:7 etc.) It is the only Valid Biblical position to take Any one that does not accept it is bound to go to hell for They Eighter call Jesus a Liar or Deny his Words and The Words of His Apostiles

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