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Edit Comment Close Premium member Presentation Transcript Slide 2: The Vedic religion is the oldest religion in the world, dating back to at least 1.7 million years. Hinduism is 50,000 years old The Vedic scriptures are the oldest known to man, dating back to at least 1.7 million years. Sanskrit is at least 3,500 years old. Rama lived over twenty thousand years ago. UNSUBSTANTIATED BIG CLAIMS : I do make several claims which seem outrageous. 1. Hinduism did not exist before the second century, A D. 2. Sanskrit did not exist before the second century AD, 3. There were no “Hindu Temples” before the second century AD. : 6. St. Thomas, - Judas Thomas – one of the disciples of Jesus known commonly as the doubting Thomas came down to India and had a successful ministy all over India and China. 4. The name Krishna did not even exist before the third century AD. Idols (Vigrahas) did not appear in India before the third century AD and in Kerala until the eighth century AD. I do make several claims which seem outrageous. Slide 5: 3 Later the Theosophical Society from America and the Indian Indpendence Movement gave impetus to redefine and form the present day form of religion known as Hinduism. Earliest forms of Hinduism was indeed Thomas Christianity with Isa as the center of worship. 2. Gnostic infilteration from Syria, the syncretic forces of the then existing religions of India (viz. Vedism, Budhism, Jainism and the local fertility cults) created the Gnostic religion of India. Some Historical Realities Long Missed I Present Slide 6: Acts of Thomas AD 200-222 By Bardesan the Syrian Philosopher – Poet Slide 7: Indian traditions in dramatized Stories, Ballads and Songs: 1. The song of Deacon (Ramban Paattu) 2. The Dramas of the Way (Margam Kali) Slide 8: Indian traditions in dramatized Stories, Ballads and Songs: 3. Songs of the Sons of the Great King (Mapila Paattu) 4. Ballads sung by tribals (Villadichan Paattu) Slide 9: Indian traditions in dramatized Stories, Ballads and Songs: 5. Chavittu Nadakam – Tap Drama Slide 10: The Malabar (Kerala) and Indian traditions are referred to by the early Church Fathers all through the history of the church. Among them are the following references: Clement of Alexandria 3rd C AD ( 235) Doctrine of the Apostles 3rd C AD Syria Oriegen 3rd (185-254 AD) quoted in Eusebius Alexandria Eusebius (early 4th C) Caesarea St. Jerome (342-420 AD) about the mission of Pantaenus, to India. St. Ephrem (306-373 AD), St. Gregory of Nazianze (324-390 AD), St. Ambrose (333-397 A.D.), St. Jerome, St. Gregory of Tours (6th C AD) Isidore of Seville (7th C AD.) St. Thomas AD 52 -72 : St. Thomas AD 52 -72 Cranganur where Thomas landed Muziris Slide 12: A Dutch Wall painting showing Habban with Thomas Slide 13: Missionary Journey of St. Thomas following Acta Thoma and folk songs like Margam kali, Ramban Paattu etc. AD 52 - 72 Taxila Crangannur Mylapur Slide 14: Internal Routes of India during the period Slide 15: Trade Routes of the First Century AD Slide 16: These routes were ancient that goes back to centuries before the Christian Era. These are probably the routes taken by the Aryans until they reached Sri Lanka by the 2c BC. Pre-Mauryan 3c BC Mauryan BC Internal Trade Routes Slide 17: Thomas Period Slide 18: Areas where the Thomas Ministry was concentrated Arabia China North India South India St. Thomas AD 52 - : St. Thomas AD 52 - Takshasila Coins of Gondaphorus Takthi bahi stone that gives the date of King Gondaphorus Gad? Indo-Parthian Kingdom Slide 20: Coin of Gondophares (20-50 CE), first and greatest king of the Indo-Parthian Kingdom.Obv: Bust of Gondophares and Greek legend: BACIΛEΩC CΩTHPOC VNΔOΦEPPOV "King Gondophares, the Saviour".Rev: Winged Nike holding a diadem, with a Kharoshti legend: MAHARAJASA GUDAPHANISA TRATARASA "King Gondophares, the Saviour". Slide 21: Vaseduva I gold coin Vaseduva I may have been the Indian king who returned the relics of the Apostle St. Thomas from India to Edessa in 232 CE. The Indian king is named as "Mazdai" in Act of Thomas, "Misdeos" and "Misdeus" in Greek and Latin sources, is "Bazdeo" on the Kushan coinage of Vasudeva I "Mazdai" of Act of Thomas : When Thomas arrived the religious scenario was: Aryan Vedic Religion Budhism Jainism Slide 23: “Vedic Hinduism” is a contradiction in terminis since Vedic religion is very different from what we generally call “Hindu Religion” At least as much Old Hebrew religion is from medieval and modern Christian religions. Prof. Michael WitzelSanskrit Department, Cambridge University Slide 24: Vedic Religion is not Hinduism Aryans were nature worshippers Their Gods were Varuna Indra Agni Vayu… 33 Gods of Vedas None of these gods are in Hinduism today. They had no concept of a supreme God Slide 25: Budhism & Jainism were Atheistic Religions Without any God Slide 26: Budhism Existence and Suffering can be explained only in terms of cause and effect. The idea of one God negates that. Slide 27: Jainism There are no Gods or God who will help humans on the road to liberation. : When Thomas arrived the religious scenario was: Aryan Vedic Religion Budhism Jainism : When Thomas arrived the religious scenario was: Aryan Vedic Religion Budhism Jainism Changed totally Param Ishwar Slide 30: Thomas ministry extended all over India and beyond. There must have existed churches all over India. Slide 31: We know that: Christianity was in India Among the Dravidians in Central India (Kaveri Area) there was a Church as early as 293 AD There existed a thriving Christian community in Kerala at that time. Slide 32: 72 families of Christians of Vellala origin from Kavery Poopatanam of Pulur District on the River Kaveri arrived in Kollam (Quilon) in Kerala as refugees fleeing from the persecution in AD 293. One Maniccavachagar followed them in AD 315 and reconverted them back to the Gnosticism. There existed Christians in AP area In Central India Slide 33: Historically well documented Christian Kingdom of Villarvattom Pana Dynasty lasted nearly a millennium from 510 to 1439 AD. Kerala was the safe haven for Christians In Kerala This kingdom was destroyed at the coming of the Portugese and the invasion of Roman Catholicism Slide 34: What type of Church did Thomas establish in India? What are we looking for? High Rise Gothic Structures? Elaborately robed priests? Throanos? Slide 35: “Translate the Gospel to other cultures” Go ye and preach the gospel To all creations Incarnation Gospel embedded in Hebrew culture Slide 37: Thomas must have established culturally relevant forms of worship and liturgy Slide 39: They worshipped Isa in culturally relevant way Hidden within the worship of temples is Jesus - even today. The Evidence? Slide 40: The Name of God: Ishwara as Jesus Slide 41: The Hebrew name of the person whom we refer as Jesus was Yehoshua which is rendered in English as Joshua . A shortened form of the name is Yeshua Yhvh Save Slide 42: Greco-Roman Translation: IesousPronounced as Yesous.Y in some languages is pronounced as J (ya as ja) rendering it as JESUS Iesous (Jesus) CHristos (Christ) THeou (God) Uiou (Son) Soter (Savior). Yeshua ichthus Fish became the symbol of early Christians Means FISH in Greek Slide 43: The Hebrew name of the person whom we refer as Jesus was Yehoshua which is rendered in English as Joshua . A shortened form of the name is Yeshua from which we get the Dravidian translation through St. Thomas as Yesu, Easow, Isa, Iswara Yhvh Save Indian Translation Slide 45: Theological Evidence : None of these 33 gods of Vedic Religion are important in the Modern Hinduism New gods BC AD Theological Evidence Brahman Vishnu Maheswara : Aryan Gods Concept of God changed Para Brahman Vedic Hindu Nature gods Slide 48: Vedantas BC AD Theological Evidence Vedas End of Vedas Scriptures Slide 49: LINGUISTIC EVIDENCE SANSKRIT Slide 50: Sanskrit the Key to Indian Religious History Slide 51: It included Prakrit, Greek and Aramaic. NO SANSKRIT Sanskrit did not exist then. ASOKA’S EDICT 264–238 BC ORIGIN OF SANSKRIT LINGUISTIC EVIDENCE Slide 52: Sanskrit was developed out of Prakrit and other existing languages during the interval of 100 AD to 150 AD The earliest Classical Sanskrit is found as an inscription dating around A.D.150 in the Brahmi script It records the repair of a dam originally built by Chandragupta Maurya, and also contains a panegyric in verse, which can be regarded as the first literary composition in classical Sanskrit. It is at Girnar in Kathiawar and was inscribed by Rudradamana, the Saka Satrap of Ujjayini, on the same rock on which the Fourteen Rock Edicts of Asoka were also found. Slide 53: Thus apart from portions of the Veda which were not written in Sanskrit, all other Vedas, Upanishads, Brahmanas and Puranas etc were written down later than 100 AD at liberal estimate. They must have been written down much later in actual fact. A more realistic estimate will be around 6th Century AD. FOUR VEDAS UPANISHADS, BRAHMANAS, PURANAS VEDANTAS BC AD This is Vedic Religion Early Hinduism Written in Vedic Written in Sanskrit Slide 54: Vishnu Purana (4th C.) Brahmanda Purana (4th C.) Vayu Purana (5th C.) Bhagvata Purana (6/7th C.) Kurma Purana (7th C.) Agni Purana (8th C.) Narada Purana (10th C.) ) Brahma Purana (10th C) Garuda Purana (10th C.) Skanda Purana (11/12th C.) Padma Purana (12/15th C.) Vishnu Dharmottara Purana Narasimha Purana Vahni Purana Shiva Mahapurana Devi Bhagvata Mahapurana Brihaddharmapurana These are written in Sanskrit and are of recent origin 4th C? Slide 55: 14c BC Moses – Torah in Hebrew 6c BC Zarathurstra Avesta In Persian/Vedic/ Avestan 5c BC Jain Scriptures in Prakrit 2c BC Rg Veda In Avestan/Vedic/Persian THOMAS 2c AD Sanskrit Hindu Scriptures Buddhist Scriptures5c BCin Pali Slide 57: Veda = Vedanta Vedic religion underwent a drastic change during the period following the 2nd c, which culminated, into the various vedantic teachings, end of Vedas something happened during the 1c AD Slide 58: Veda Vedanta This drastic change cannot be explained by any other factor Slide 59: Documentary internal Evidence Slide 60: Om Sri Brahmaputra, NamahaO God, Son of God, We worship you. Om Sri Umathaya, Namaha O God, the Holy Spirit, We worship you. Om Sri Kannisuthaya, NamahaO God, born of a virgin, We worship you. Om Sri Vrishtaya, Namaha O God, who is circumcised, We worship you. Om Sri Panchakaya, Namaha O God, who has five wounds, We worship you. Om Shri Vritchsula Arul Daya, NamahaO God, who was crucified to provide mercy, We worship you. Om Sri Mritumjaya, Namaha Oh God , who overcame death, We worship you. Om Sri Dakshinamurthy, Namaha O God, who sits on the right hand, We worship you. None but Jesus fits this description This Namaavali is sung in almost all temples 1a : Rig Veda mandalams II and X Were written after 100 AD These presents the figure of PRAJAPATHY PURUSHA SUKTHA HYMNS "Suspend" to hear hymns then "resume" Slide 62: “Hiranyagarbha: samavarthaagreBhuuthasya jaatha: pathireka aaseethSadaadhaara Prudhwivim dyaamuthemamKasmai devaaya havisha vidhemam.”In the beginning, God and his supreme spirit alone existed. From the supreme Spirit of the God proceeded Hiranya Garbha, alias Prajapathy, the first born of the God in the form of light. As soon as born, he became the savior of all the worlds. RgVeda X:121:1 Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:15-17 Slide 63: “Thasmaad virraada jaayathaviraajo adhi purusha:Sajaatho athyarichyathaPaschaad bhoomim adho pura:” From that male the universe came into being. From that body of the universe came the omnipresent Person. That Person thus became manifest, adopted various forms and character and created the earth and other planets along with the creatures to live in them.(Rigveda X:90:5) Aadi Purusha Slide 64: “Purusha evedam sarvamYadbhutham yacha bhavyamUthaamruthathwasya esaanaYa daannenathirohathi” This man, the first born of the God is all that was, all that is and all that has to be. And he comes to this world to give recompense to everybody as per his deeds. (Rigveda X:90:2) Rev 22:12 "Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. Slide 65: “Tham yajnam barhishi proukshanPurusham jaathamagrathaThena deva ayajanthaSadhya rushayaschaye” This man, the first born of the God, was tied to a wooden sacrificial post and the gods and the Kings along the seers performed the sacrifice‘Purushasookta’ Rigveda X:90:7 Slide 66: “Thamevam Vidwanamruthaiha bhavathyNanya pandha ayanaya vidyathe” This (sacrifice) is the only way for redemption and liberation of mankind. Those meditate and attain this man, believe in heart and chant with the lips, get liberated in this world itself and there is no other way for salvation too. Yajurveda XXXI:18, Rigveda X:90:16. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Slide 67: Pajapathy Vai idam agre aseetIn the beginning was Prajapathi, the GodTasyam vag dvitiya aseetWith whom was the Word Vag vai Parama BrahmaAnd the Word was verily the Supreme God Rg Veda John 1:1 Slide 68: Thus we see the Jesus Gospel Presented in Culturally relevant manner in the later scriptures of India. How? Why? Slide 69: Bhavishya Purana Bhavi = Future Bhavishya = Consequence Purana = Old Stories is a verbatim copy of The OLD TESTAMENT Only the names are Indianised Slide 70: In the eastern side of Pradan (Pradan means Main, Important, Capital of the country) city where there is a big God-given forest (Eden), which is 16 square yojanas in size. The man named Adama (Adam) was staying there under a Papa-Vriksha or a sinful tree (Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil) and was eager to see his wife Havyavati. (Hovah) ‘Prathisargaparvam’4:28 Adam & Hovah – Garden of Eden – Tree of Good and Evil Slide 71: Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made He cheated them and they disobeyed Lord Vishnu (Yahweh is here identified with Vishnu). The husband ate the forbidden fruit of the sinful tree. They lived by eating air with the leaves called udumbara It is strange that when copying the story from the book of Genesis, even the fact that the generations after Adam till Noah were vegetarians was acknowledged. The Kali purusha quickly came there assuming the form of a serpent. Slide 72: After they had sons and all of them became mlecchas. sinners All Adamic race became sinful Slide 73: Adama's duration of life was nine hundred and thirty years Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. He offered oblations with fruits and went to heaven with his wife. His son was named Sveta-nama ( Seth- nama = name), and he lived nine-hundred and twelve years. Genesis 5:8 and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. Sveta-nama's son was Anuta (Enosh), who ruled one-hundred years less than his father. Genesis 5:10 and Enosh lived after he begat Kenan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: Slide 74: Genesis 5:14 His son Kinasa (Kenan) ruled as much as his grandfather. Genesis 5:17 His son Malahalla (Mahalalel) ruled eight-hundred ninety five years. Genesis 5:20 His son Virada (Jared) ruled 960 years. Slide 75: His son Hamuka (Enoch) was devoted to Lord Vishnu, and offering oblations of fruits he achieved salvation. He ruled 365 years and went to heaven with the same body being engaged in mleccha-dharma. Genesis 5:23 and all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. Enoch Slide 76: Genesis 5:31 His son Lomaka (Lamech) ruled 777 years and went to heaven. His son Nyuha (Noah) ruled for 500 years. He had three sons named Sima, Sama and Bhava. (And Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth. ) Nyuha was a devotee of Lord Vishnu. Once the Lord appeared in his dream and said: “My dear Nyuha, please listen, there will be devastation on the seventh day. Therefore, you have to be very quick that you make a big boat and ride in it. O chief of the devotees, you will be celebrated as a great king”. Noah’ Flood Slide 77: Then he made a strong boat which was 300 feet long, 50 feet wide and 30 feet high. It was beautiful and all the living entities could take shelter in it. He then himself rode in it, engaged in meditating on Lord Vishnu.Genesis 6:15 And this is how thou shalt make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. Slide 78: Lord Indra called the devastating cloud named Sambartaka and poured heavy rain continuously for 40 days. Genesis 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. Slide 79: The whole earth, Bharat-varsa, had merged in the water and four oceans came up together. Only Visala or Badarikasrama was not submerged. There were 80,000 great transcendentalists in Visala who joined with king Nyuha and his family. All of them were saved and everything else was destroyed. Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after Nephilim (Gen_6:4; Num_13:33, R.V.), giants, the Hebrew word left untranslated by the Revisers, the name of one of the Canaanitish tribes. The Revisers have, however, translated the Hebrew gibborim, in Gen_6:4, "mighty men." Nephilim Slide 80: The total time of the flood of Noah works out to be exactly one year when we add all the various phases. Slide 81: The Story goes on till Abraham Slide 82: [From the 29th chapter of the Pratisarga Parva.]Then it was predicted that a master (Patriarch) will come by the name of Moosa (Moses) and his faith will spread all over the world. Slide 83: When the era of Kali has reached three thousand years Jesus Christ appears with the name “Easa Maseeha” in the land of Huna. . King Shaka asked “May I know, who you are!”. With apparent joy that male replied “Know that I am the Son of God. I am born in the womb of a virgin. ‘Easa Maseeha’ is my well known name”. (Bhavashya purana- Prathisarga parva, IIIrd part- 2ndchapter- 23rd verse Slide 84: It is certain therefore that India was very well aware of the Semitic religions and also knew Jesus as Esa Massih They knew the Old Testament and the New Testament stories Slide 85: New Concepts Slide 86: Evidence from Om concept THE LOGOS Slide 87: AUM is not found in the ancient Rig-Veda. Or in any of the Vedas Slide 88: The threefold constituents of – A U M - are referred to, in the Prashna-Upanishad (V.5). and the symbolic elaboration of this is found in the Mândûkya-Upanishad. Even the early Upanishads written in Sanskrit, refer to it only indirectly as the udgîtha (“up sound”) and the pranava (“pronouncing”). 4th Century AD Slide 89: In the Yoga-Sûtra (1.27),it is called the Word (vâcaka) of the Lord (îshvara). Slide 90: the symbol and mantra AUM emerged in Indian scene soon after the mission of St.Thomas the Apostle and seen only after that time. All early churches in the Malankara had used this as the Christian symbol and appear at the entrance of the seven original churches. Slide 91: AUM was clearly part of the Malankara Christian tradition from the first century, associate it with the Christian Trinity and to Christ – the word who became flesh. An objective conclusion would be that Aum was indeed the original Christian concept as introduced by Thomas. Slide 92: The Word became Flesh Slide 93: John 1:1 The whole Eastern Church Theology is condensed in this representation Lotus faced Jagnath CONCEPT OF GOD Slide 94: Lord Jagannath Deity Faces and Sesha Naga Jaganath- Father Baladeva- Son Paramatma – Spirit Goswami interpretation Trinity Slide 95: Baladev- Son Subhadra – Spirit Jagnnath- Father White face Visible form Sakthi Red Fire/ Energy Black face Incomprehensiblesunya Trinity Slide 96: Siva Lingam The Form of the Formless Trinity Slide 97: The earliest direct portrayal of hinduism Shiva Linga Gupta, Early 5th century AD Udayagiri, Madhya Pradesh, India ekamukha Form without form Siv linga Became Man Slide 98: VaishnavaTilak Slide 99: Pillayar Concept Appan, Amma and Makan How did the Son get the elephant face? SON OF GOD Slide 100: This is an image of the rock cut Karpaka Vinayakar At Pillayarpatti Karaikkudi 400 AD. The earliest Vinayakar idol Slide 101: Karpaga Vinayakar is one of the oldest Vinayakar images in the world for it has only two arms. The significance of the two arms is that God came in the form of man. Slide 102: Later on to show the superiority of God to man the head of the man was removed and in its place a head in the shape of OM was fixed. The OM head was similar to that of an elephant. There are only two images of Vinayakars with two arms in the world. Slide 103: Valampuri Vinayagar The elephant faced Ganapathy (The Lord of Host), the son of Siva came out of the symbolism of Word becoming Flesh – the Incarnation. Slide 104: Gana Pathi Lord of Hosts Slide 105: Elephanta Caves, Off Bombay Sadasiva Murthy Slide 106: The enigmatic image of Trimurthi Sadasiva Tatpurusha-Mahadeva three faces Vamadeva-Uma (feminine - right side) Aghora-Bhairava (Masculine Fierce – left side) Slide 107: Basic doctrinal aspects of Saivism and Vaishnavism Doctrine of Trinity Doctrine of Avatar Doctrine of Fulfillment of Sacrifice Doctrine of Forgiveness of Sin Doctrine of Salvation through Faith (Bhakthi Marga) Slide 108: All documentary evidence thus suggest that both Saivism and Vaishnavism are the offshoots of Early Indian Christianity 4 Slide 109: Siva's roots are from Isa Maheswara Parameswara Isa Slide 110: The Stones Cry out Archaelogical Evidences 5 Slide 111: Ajantha Ellora Cave Temples of Maharashtra 200 BC – 500 AD Buddhist Monasteries Slide 112: Sanchi Buddhist Stupa was erected by Ashoka Maurya in the middle of the 3d century BC : Impossing Budhist Structures in BC But NO Hindu Temples or Structures ! Slide 114: The earliest “Hindu” Temple Tigawa, near modern Jabalpur Dated Gupta Dynasty AD 350 - 650 Slide 115: In the early period the Christian Churches of Kerala has the same model as of Hindu temples Piravaom Church Aranmula Temple Vasco-da-Gama in entered a Kali temple at Calicut mistaking it for a Christian church. Slide 116: Kapaleeshwarar temple The temple is located in Mylapore,... This was probably the Cathedral of Thomas Evidences of Christian heritage is found here. Slide 117: “More importantly, evidences have emerged, especially in the book ‘The Saint Thomas Myth' in India by Ved Prakash, for the existence of the Shiva temple, which might have been the original Kapaleeswara Temple.” (Hamsa.org) Slide 118: It means modern HINDUISM began as an Indian Christian Church Hindu Sanadhana Dharma = Indian Catholic Church Slide 119: Where is Jesus of Nazareth? What happenned? Slide 120: Gnosticism – the first enemy of Christian Churches came to India after the 2nd century. Slide 121: Manichaenism The Forgotten Factor in India – Manichæism How come the teachings are so distorted from Christian teachings today? Slide 122: Mani A.D. 215-276 of Mardinu in Babylonia. Mani’s father was a Mandaen The only surviving Gnostic religion, now with no more than 20,000 adherents, living in southern Iraq and southwestern Iran. Their main city is Nasiriyya. They are often called the Christians of Saint John Mandaen in Aramaic stand for 'knowledge', i.e. Greek 'gnosis'. Slide 123: Mandaen Slide 124: "As once Buddha came to India, Zoroaster to Persia, and Jesus to the lands of the West, so came in the present time, this prophecy through me, the Mani, to the land of Babylonia” On Sunday, 20 March, A.D. 242, Mani first proclaimed his gospel in the royal residence, Gundesapor, on the coronation day of Sapor Slide 125: For many years Mani traveled abroad, founding Manichæan communities in Turkestan and India. To the Buddhists Mani became Buddha and to the Christians Mani became the Apostle of Jesus and the Paraclete whom Jesus Promised. Slide 127: Bala Subra Manian Skanda Murugan Magician Manica Vachagar Alexander the Great -xander Slide 128: Gnostic Sophia Hindu Lakshmi : Gnosticism = Modern Hinduism Novel beliefs about Gods. (Denying the Lord) Development of myths.(Fables and fantasies) Tolerance of different religious beliefs within and outside of Gnosticism. A belief that salvation is achieved through knowledge. Slide 130: Bardesanes – the Syrian poet came to India sometime in the 3c AD. He is said to have had a controversy with Mani in Ayroor He went back and wrote the “Acts of Thomas” The major force in Gnostic take over came through Manichaen Slide 131: We know that there ensued a persecution to the Christian communities in the Andhra and Tamil areas, that they were forced to migrate to Quilon and Thiruvanthapuram in Kerala around 300 AD. We also know that they were persued by the then leaders of Hinduism. AD 293 Immigration of 72 Christian families Cauverypoopatanam Puhur Village to Kollam Manicaen followed them and reconverted some North Aryans were VaishnavitesBrahmins took over South Dravids were Saivites Slide 132: FORMATION OF HINDUISM Slide 133: 31 December 1600 15 August 1947 Clive Religion of India totally baffled them Warren Hasting Christian Hindu BRITISH RULE Slide 134: CHRISTIAN MUSLIM HINDU All others which we cannot understand Slide 135: Invented by the British Administration 250 years saw eight generations go by who were totally brainwashed into thinking they were part of a religion called Hinduism - which really meant ‘of India’. During Indian Independence Movement this unification of religion became very important Slide 136: THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT “Hindu Relgion” became a Political expediency as a unification HINDU MUSLIM SIKH ISSAI Slide 137: Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891 Theosophical Society Founded in New York City in 1875 Col. Olcott In 1886, it was decided to shift the headquarters of the society to its present location in Adayar, Madras. Slide 138: [ 1847 –1933 Annie Besant and others first discussed Home Rule, leading to the call that led to the founding of the Indian National Congress and the birth of the Freedom Movement. “One God, One Religion and One Nation” Slide 139: Under Heaven One Family Harijan idea Slide 141: 1863-1902 Slide 142: Arya Samaj founded Maharishi Swami Dayanand Saraswati April 7,1875 at Mumbai, India Hinduism is a pure Vedic religion. Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam - Make This World Aryan.- Slide 143: Lack of any temples prior to AD 300 dedicated to any of the gods or avatars indicates that even though Indian culture dates back to 8000 BC., the Hindu culture as envisioned today did not exist far beyond the third century AD. The great antiquity of Indian mythology and philosophies are simply a myth created very recently for political and social gains. : Modern Hinduism Thomas Mani Theosophy Slide 146: Today "manipulative reinterpretation of cultural material" and "invention of tradition" = Hindutava Slide 147: Malankara churches had always been in touch with the rest of the Catholic churches in Antioch, Alexandria and Rome Slide 148: Thus by the third century, Malankara Churches remained within the Universal Historical Church Slide 149: The rest of the Indian Churches went Gnostic and became Hindu. They lost the Jesus of history and ended up with myths. Gnosticism swallowed Christianity Slide 150: This ends the study on Indus Slide 151: Archeology of Kerala To God's Own Land Kerala Slide 152: Kerala - a secret between Hill and Sea Slide 153: Open to wide world through the sea. Slide 154: Archeology of Kerala Slide 155: K.P.Soundrarajan, Director, Archaeology Survey of India, 1978 THE EALIEST HINDU IDOLS OF KERALA Vigrahas (Idols) in Kerala came later than 8th C AD Slide 156: Aja Eka Pada: First appears in Thondamandalam in the 8th C., in Cholamandalam in the 11th C., in Pandimandalam in the 13th C. ArdhaNareeswara: Appears in S.India only after the 7th C. and in Kerala only after the 9th C. AnanthaShayi: South India 6th C. and Kerala 8th C. DakshinaMoorthy: Kerala 8th C. Ganesha: Kerala 8th C. Harihara: Kerala 11th C. varahareshvara: 13th C. Jeshta: 11th C. Lingothbhava: Post-11th C. SapthaMatha: 14th C. TriMoorthy: 8th C. Slide 157: Vigrahas (Idols) in Kerala came later than 8th C AD On the other hand Slide 158: The Pahlavi crosses are much older than any Hindu Vigraha. Slide 159: KOTTAYAM VALIA PALLI SOME OF THEM DATE FIRST CENTURY AD Slide 160: KALABHRA INTERREGNUM THE DARK AGES OF SOUTH INDIA Slide 161: Literature Flourished Slide 162: ”Historians speculate that these people followed Buddhist or Jain faiths and were antagonistic towards the Hindu and Brahminical religions adhered by the majority of inhabitants of the Tamil region during the early centuries C.E. As a result Hindu scholars and authors who followed their decline in the 7th and 8th century C.E. may have expunged any mention of them in their texts and generally tended to paint their rule in a negative light. It is perhaps due to this reason, the period of their rule is known as a ‘Dark Age’ – an “interregnum”. Wikipedia Slide 163: Who are the Kalabhras? What do we know? Slide 164: Who are the Kalabhras? + The identification of the Kalabhras is difficult. Historians base their assumption on the phonetics: + Muttaraiyar of Kondubalur + Karnatas of Madurai. + Kalappalar, Vellala tribes + Kalavar, Tiraiyan of Pavattiri and Pulli of Vengadam or Tirupati - cattle lifting robber chief Slide 165: Who are the Kalabhras? Evidence from Sangam Literature King Achchutavikranta of the Kalabharakula, as ruling over the Chola country from Kaveripatnam. ! Slide 166: Who are the Kalabhras? "Cerobothras' of the Periplus Pliny the Roman historian of the first century calls them as Caelobothras. Asoka’s Keralaputras Slide 167: Kalabhra Interregnum was the result of an attempt to obliterate the Christian Period of Caelobothras Slide 168: Mahabali: A demon who conquered several worlds; to end his tyranny Lord Vishnu incarnated as a dwarf Slide 169: Mahabali = Great Sacrifice = CHRIST This story is in effect the story of how Christianity in Kerala was defeated by Hindus. This is also supported by pre-cosmic myth of Palaazhi Mathanam in which Mahabali was killed and was brought back to life. Slide 170: Asu- ra asu = (breath) Asuras are those who were created by the breath of God, who has the Holy Spirit within them. Slide 171: Christians? Slide 172: The term asura corresponds to the Zoroastrian word Ahura. In Zoroastrianism the Ahuras are supreme, while the devas are demonic. AHURA MAZDA Slide 173: “Mahabali was an Asura King who was defeated by the Suras by trick. In the Rig-Veda, the Asuras are shown as spiritual, divine beings. Their etymology is derived from asu (breath), the "Breath of God," thus, Asuras are those who were created by the breath of God, who has the Holy Spirit within them. It is later on, after Brahminic domination, they are shown issuing from Brahma's thigh, and that their name began to be derived from “a”, primitive, and sura, god (solar deities), which is interpreted as “not-a-god.” (Madame H. P. Blavatsky in `The Secret Doctrine', II, 59 ) Slide 174: The word asura is formed from the word asu with the addition of the suffix ra and means 'one full of ra spiritual life and 'by curious process of semantical change a – sura came to mean a demon.' Pt. Satya Vrat - Ramayana - A Linguistic Study Slide 175: The Asuras “The asuras "are the sons of the primeval Creative Breath at the beginning of every new Maha Kalpa, or Manvantara; in the same rank as the Angels who had remained 'faithful.' These were the allies of Soma (the parent of the Esoteric Wisdom) as against Brishaspati (representing ritualistic or ceremonial worship). Evidently they have been degraded in Space and Time into opposing powers or demons by the ceremonialists, on account of their rebellion against hypocrisy, sham-worship, and the dead-letter form" (Secret Doctrines 2:500). Theosophical Society - Madam Blavinsky. Slide 176: "Maveli Nadu Vanidum Kalam Manusharellarum Onnupole Amodathode vasikum kalam apathangarkumottilla thanum Adhikal Vyadhikal Onnumilla Bala maranangal Kelkanilla Kallavumilla ChathivumillaEllolamilla Poli Vachanam Kallaparyum Cheru NazhiyumKallatharangal mattonumilla When Maveli, our King, rules the land, All the peoples form one casteless race. And people live joyful and merry; They are free from all harms. There is neither theft nor deceit, And no one is false in speech either. Measures and weights are right; No one cheats or wrongs the neighbor. When Maveli, our King, rules the land, All the peoples form one casteless race. Slide 177: is the only festival which Christians celebrate in common with Hindus Slide 178: A veritable Kingdom of God in the fashion of the early Christian community in Jerusalem was in existence under the Christian Kingdom of Maha Bali. Slide 179: Mahabali’s Aswamedha took place at the banks of NARMADA Probable extent of Mahabali’s Kingdom Slide 181: Hindu Christendom extended intially from Taxila to Kerala. Mahabali was a Christian King And may be dated before 4th century This Kingdom was destroyed by deceit by the entry of Vaihnava heresy within the Church. It is the little foxes that spoils the vineyard (Proverbs) Slide 182: Gnostic influence came by the 3rd or 4th C The Vamana story describes this entry Slide 183: Pallavas were of Syrian origin And Vaishnavites Slide 184: The legend of Slide 185: The legend of Prester John (also Presbyter John), popular in Europe from the 12th through the 17th centuries Slide 186: Reportedly a descendant of one of the Three Magi, Prester John was said to be a generous ruler and a virtuous man, presiding over a realm full of riches and strange creatures, elephants and pea cocks,in which the Patriarch of St. Thomas resided. Slide 187: The only religion when Thomas came to Kerala apart from Budhism and Jainism were Nature Worshippers(Probably Aryan) and Mother Goddess (Bhagavathy) worshippers. Slide 188: The Population of Kerala at 1C AD 300,000 Slide 189: was the main religion of Kerala until 8thC AD Slide 190: KERALA SCENARIO Slide 191: Later Brahmans came to Kerala around 6thC AD and the Chera kingdom of Mahodayapuram. Parasurama myth Slide 192: CHAVETTU PADA In the feudal society of Kerala there were suicide squads, whose motto was to kill or get killed. These dare-devil type of soldiers were known as Chavettupada. The members of the squads were dedicated to the presiding deities of famous temples and the soldiers were supposed to carry out the orders of the goddess in fighting the enemies. The soldiers were given rigorous training in the martial arts and were maintained for the protection of famous temples. Slide 193: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins (Chavaar Pada) Dr. Kesavan Veluthat “Known variously as the Chatter or Chattirar, these arms-bearing Brahmanans are seen in records from different parts of India from the post-Gupta period onwards. It is from Kerala that we have the clearest information about them. Slide 194: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins Dr. Kesavan Veluthat We hear about the significant institutions called Salais, which imparted military training to these Brahmanan youth in different parts of Kerala – some of them had been looked upon by the neighbouring rulers as a veritable military threat to them.,….. Slide 195: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins (Chavaar Pada) Namboothiri Website Trust: Dr. Kesavan Veluthat : In any case, Namboothiris had become a significant economic, social and political force by the time the Chera Perumals were ruling over Kerala. This justifies the statement of a modern historian that the polity under the Cheras of Mahodayapuram was in reality a Brahmanan oligarchy and that the Brahmanans constituted the real power behind the throne. Slide 196: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins (Chavaar Pada) In fact, the statements in Keralolpathi as well as other historical sources, that it was the Brahmanans who put the Chera king on the throne, mean the same thing. ” Namboothiri Website Trust Dr. Kesavan Veluthat : http://www.namboothiri.com/articles/history.htm Slide 197: Pallavas were of Syrian origin And Vaishnavites Perumals were Vaishnavites Slide 198: Ten Incarnations of Vishnu & Christianity Slide 199: Matsyavatara (fish), Koorma (tortoise), Varaaha (boar), Narasimha (the man lion), Vaamana (the dwarf), Parasurama (Rama with Axe), Rama Balarama Krishna Kalki Slide 200: The fight between Historic Christianity and Gnosticism started beyond India from beyond the sea. Slide 201: Kurma Tortoise - Kasyapa Kashyapa's penance was being done at the place known in modern times as Mount Abu. Kasyapa was the father of Vamana Slide 202: Srimad-Bhagavatam 2:7:1 Varaha Battles Hiranyaksa Hiranyaksa was the younger brother of Hiranya Kasipu Slide 203: Nara Simha kills Hiranya Kasipu Hiranya Kasipu Prahalada Virochana The betrayer Slide 204: Virochana Maha Bali Slide 205: Vaishnava Invasion of Kerala Parasu Rama Slide 206: Maha Bali Bana Ravana Rama Slide 208: Does the Dasavatara Describe the Wars between Gnostics & Christians? Slide 209: * In marriage, * in amorous dealings, * when one's life is in danger * when the whole of one's possession is going to be lost, and *when a Brahman's interest is at stake untruth should be told. The wise have said that speaking untruth on these five occasions is not a sin. Finding Yudhisthira unwilling to tell a lie, Krishna said: Vasishtha's Smrithi Slide 210: A similar transformation took place in Europe. The Roman Catholic Church is an example of Hinduism of Europe. “In the traditional Christmas Eve celebrations of the Ramakrishna Order, when the worship centers on a representation of the Virgin and Child and the liturgical prayers and hymns and offerings are made to Mary as much as to Jesus.” Hindu Sanadhana Dharma = Indian Catholic Church Slide 211: Indian Scenario Kerala Scenario Aryan entry Arrival of St.Thomas Vamana Conquest- First Arayan Conquest Mahabali Nadu Manicaen Heresy Parasu Rama Second Aryan Conquest Hinduism - idols appear Nair Warrior Kings Theosophical Society Manicaen Heresy Slide 212: "Asato ma sat gamaya (From illusion lead me to the Truth); Jesus is the Truth (John 14:6; John 8:32). Tamaso ma jyotir gamaya (From darkness lead me to Light);Jesus is the Light (John 8:12). Mrityur ma amritam gamaya (From death lead me to Immortality)".Jesus is the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25). 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Edit Comment Close Premium member Presentation Transcript Slide 2: The Vedic religion is the oldest religion in the world, dating back to at least 1.7 million years. Hinduism is 50,000 years old The Vedic scriptures are the oldest known to man, dating back to at least 1.7 million years. Sanskrit is at least 3,500 years old. Rama lived over twenty thousand years ago. UNSUBSTANTIATED BIG CLAIMS : I do make several claims which seem outrageous. 1. Hinduism did not exist before the second century, A D. 2. Sanskrit did not exist before the second century AD, 3. There were no “Hindu Temples” before the second century AD. : 6. St. Thomas, - Judas Thomas – one of the disciples of Jesus known commonly as the doubting Thomas came down to India and had a successful ministy all over India and China. 4. The name Krishna did not even exist before the third century AD. Idols (Vigrahas) did not appear in India before the third century AD and in Kerala until the eighth century AD. I do make several claims which seem outrageous. Slide 5: 3 Later the Theosophical Society from America and the Indian Indpendence Movement gave impetus to redefine and form the present day form of religion known as Hinduism. Earliest forms of Hinduism was indeed Thomas Christianity with Isa as the center of worship. 2. Gnostic infilteration from Syria, the syncretic forces of the then existing religions of India (viz. Vedism, Budhism, Jainism and the local fertility cults) created the Gnostic religion of India. Some Historical Realities Long Missed I Present Slide 6: Acts of Thomas AD 200-222 By Bardesan the Syrian Philosopher – Poet Slide 7: Indian traditions in dramatized Stories, Ballads and Songs: 1. The song of Deacon (Ramban Paattu) 2. The Dramas of the Way (Margam Kali) Slide 8: Indian traditions in dramatized Stories, Ballads and Songs: 3. Songs of the Sons of the Great King (Mapila Paattu) 4. Ballads sung by tribals (Villadichan Paattu) Slide 9: Indian traditions in dramatized Stories, Ballads and Songs: 5. Chavittu Nadakam – Tap Drama Slide 10: The Malabar (Kerala) and Indian traditions are referred to by the early Church Fathers all through the history of the church. Among them are the following references: Clement of Alexandria 3rd C AD ( 235) Doctrine of the Apostles 3rd C AD Syria Oriegen 3rd (185-254 AD) quoted in Eusebius Alexandria Eusebius (early 4th C) Caesarea St. Jerome (342-420 AD) about the mission of Pantaenus, to India. St. Ephrem (306-373 AD), St. Gregory of Nazianze (324-390 AD), St. Ambrose (333-397 A.D.), St. Jerome, St. Gregory of Tours (6th C AD) Isidore of Seville (7th C AD.) St. Thomas AD 52 -72 : St. Thomas AD 52 -72 Cranganur where Thomas landed Muziris Slide 12: A Dutch Wall painting showing Habban with Thomas Slide 13: Missionary Journey of St. Thomas following Acta Thoma and folk songs like Margam kali, Ramban Paattu etc. AD 52 - 72 Taxila Crangannur Mylapur Slide 14: Internal Routes of India during the period Slide 15: Trade Routes of the First Century AD Slide 16: These routes were ancient that goes back to centuries before the Christian Era. These are probably the routes taken by the Aryans until they reached Sri Lanka by the 2c BC. Pre-Mauryan 3c BC Mauryan BC Internal Trade Routes Slide 17: Thomas Period Slide 18: Areas where the Thomas Ministry was concentrated Arabia China North India South India St. Thomas AD 52 - : St. Thomas AD 52 - Takshasila Coins of Gondaphorus Takthi bahi stone that gives the date of King Gondaphorus Gad? Indo-Parthian Kingdom Slide 20: Coin of Gondophares (20-50 CE), first and greatest king of the Indo-Parthian Kingdom.Obv: Bust of Gondophares and Greek legend: BACIΛEΩC CΩTHPOC VNΔOΦEPPOV "King Gondophares, the Saviour".Rev: Winged Nike holding a diadem, with a Kharoshti legend: MAHARAJASA GUDAPHANISA TRATARASA "King Gondophares, the Saviour". Slide 21: Vaseduva I gold coin Vaseduva I may have been the Indian king who returned the relics of the Apostle St. Thomas from India to Edessa in 232 CE. The Indian king is named as "Mazdai" in Act of Thomas, "Misdeos" and "Misdeus" in Greek and Latin sources, is "Bazdeo" on the Kushan coinage of Vasudeva I "Mazdai" of Act of Thomas : When Thomas arrived the religious scenario was: Aryan Vedic Religion Budhism Jainism Slide 23: “Vedic Hinduism” is a contradiction in terminis since Vedic religion is very different from what we generally call “Hindu Religion” At least as much Old Hebrew religion is from medieval and modern Christian religions. Prof. Michael WitzelSanskrit Department, Cambridge University Slide 24: Vedic Religion is not Hinduism Aryans were nature worshippers Their Gods were Varuna Indra Agni Vayu… 33 Gods of Vedas None of these gods are in Hinduism today. They had no concept of a supreme God Slide 25: Budhism & Jainism were Atheistic Religions Without any God Slide 26: Budhism Existence and Suffering can be explained only in terms of cause and effect. The idea of one God negates that. Slide 27: Jainism There are no Gods or God who will help humans on the road to liberation. : When Thomas arrived the religious scenario was: Aryan Vedic Religion Budhism Jainism : When Thomas arrived the religious scenario was: Aryan Vedic Religion Budhism Jainism Changed totally Param Ishwar Slide 30: Thomas ministry extended all over India and beyond. There must have existed churches all over India. Slide 31: We know that: Christianity was in India Among the Dravidians in Central India (Kaveri Area) there was a Church as early as 293 AD There existed a thriving Christian community in Kerala at that time. Slide 32: 72 families of Christians of Vellala origin from Kavery Poopatanam of Pulur District on the River Kaveri arrived in Kollam (Quilon) in Kerala as refugees fleeing from the persecution in AD 293. One Maniccavachagar followed them in AD 315 and reconverted them back to the Gnosticism. There existed Christians in AP area In Central India Slide 33: Historically well documented Christian Kingdom of Villarvattom Pana Dynasty lasted nearly a millennium from 510 to 1439 AD. Kerala was the safe haven for Christians In Kerala This kingdom was destroyed at the coming of the Portugese and the invasion of Roman Catholicism Slide 34: What type of Church did Thomas establish in India? What are we looking for? High Rise Gothic Structures? Elaborately robed priests? Throanos? Slide 35: “Translate the Gospel to other cultures” Go ye and preach the gospel To all creations Incarnation Gospel embedded in Hebrew culture Slide 37: Thomas must have established culturally relevant forms of worship and liturgy Slide 39: They worshipped Isa in culturally relevant way Hidden within the worship of temples is Jesus - even today. The Evidence? Slide 40: The Name of God: Ishwara as Jesus Slide 41: The Hebrew name of the person whom we refer as Jesus was Yehoshua which is rendered in English as Joshua . A shortened form of the name is Yeshua Yhvh Save Slide 42: Greco-Roman Translation: IesousPronounced as Yesous.Y in some languages is pronounced as J (ya as ja) rendering it as JESUS Iesous (Jesus) CHristos (Christ) THeou (God) Uiou (Son) Soter (Savior). Yeshua ichthus Fish became the symbol of early Christians Means FISH in Greek Slide 43: The Hebrew name of the person whom we refer as Jesus was Yehoshua which is rendered in English as Joshua . A shortened form of the name is Yeshua from which we get the Dravidian translation through St. Thomas as Yesu, Easow, Isa, Iswara Yhvh Save Indian Translation Slide 45: Theological Evidence : None of these 33 gods of Vedic Religion are important in the Modern Hinduism New gods BC AD Theological Evidence Brahman Vishnu Maheswara : Aryan Gods Concept of God changed Para Brahman Vedic Hindu Nature gods Slide 48: Vedantas BC AD Theological Evidence Vedas End of Vedas Scriptures Slide 49: LINGUISTIC EVIDENCE SANSKRIT Slide 50: Sanskrit the Key to Indian Religious History Slide 51: It included Prakrit, Greek and Aramaic. NO SANSKRIT Sanskrit did not exist then. ASOKA’S EDICT 264–238 BC ORIGIN OF SANSKRIT LINGUISTIC EVIDENCE Slide 52: Sanskrit was developed out of Prakrit and other existing languages during the interval of 100 AD to 150 AD The earliest Classical Sanskrit is found as an inscription dating around A.D.150 in the Brahmi script It records the repair of a dam originally built by Chandragupta Maurya, and also contains a panegyric in verse, which can be regarded as the first literary composition in classical Sanskrit. It is at Girnar in Kathiawar and was inscribed by Rudradamana, the Saka Satrap of Ujjayini, on the same rock on which the Fourteen Rock Edicts of Asoka were also found. Slide 53: Thus apart from portions of the Veda which were not written in Sanskrit, all other Vedas, Upanishads, Brahmanas and Puranas etc were written down later than 100 AD at liberal estimate. They must have been written down much later in actual fact. A more realistic estimate will be around 6th Century AD. FOUR VEDAS UPANISHADS, BRAHMANAS, PURANAS VEDANTAS BC AD This is Vedic Religion Early Hinduism Written in Vedic Written in Sanskrit Slide 54: Vishnu Purana (4th C.) Brahmanda Purana (4th C.) Vayu Purana (5th C.) Bhagvata Purana (6/7th C.) Kurma Purana (7th C.) Agni Purana (8th C.) Narada Purana (10th C.) ) Brahma Purana (10th C) Garuda Purana (10th C.) Skanda Purana (11/12th C.) Padma Purana (12/15th C.) Vishnu Dharmottara Purana Narasimha Purana Vahni Purana Shiva Mahapurana Devi Bhagvata Mahapurana Brihaddharmapurana These are written in Sanskrit and are of recent origin 4th C? Slide 55: 14c BC Moses – Torah in Hebrew 6c BC Zarathurstra Avesta In Persian/Vedic/ Avestan 5c BC Jain Scriptures in Prakrit 2c BC Rg Veda In Avestan/Vedic/Persian THOMAS 2c AD Sanskrit Hindu Scriptures Buddhist Scriptures5c BCin Pali Slide 57: Veda = Vedanta Vedic religion underwent a drastic change during the period following the 2nd c, which culminated, into the various vedantic teachings, end of Vedas something happened during the 1c AD Slide 58: Veda Vedanta This drastic change cannot be explained by any other factor Slide 59: Documentary internal Evidence Slide 60: Om Sri Brahmaputra, NamahaO God, Son of God, We worship you. Om Sri Umathaya, Namaha O God, the Holy Spirit, We worship you. Om Sri Kannisuthaya, NamahaO God, born of a virgin, We worship you. Om Sri Vrishtaya, Namaha O God, who is circumcised, We worship you. Om Sri Panchakaya, Namaha O God, who has five wounds, We worship you. Om Shri Vritchsula Arul Daya, NamahaO God, who was crucified to provide mercy, We worship you. Om Sri Mritumjaya, Namaha Oh God , who overcame death, We worship you. Om Sri Dakshinamurthy, Namaha O God, who sits on the right hand, We worship you. None but Jesus fits this description This Namaavali is sung in almost all temples 1a : Rig Veda mandalams II and X Were written after 100 AD These presents the figure of PRAJAPATHY PURUSHA SUKTHA HYMNS "Suspend" to hear hymns then "resume" Slide 62: “Hiranyagarbha: samavarthaagreBhuuthasya jaatha: pathireka aaseethSadaadhaara Prudhwivim dyaamuthemamKasmai devaaya havisha vidhemam.”In the beginning, God and his supreme spirit alone existed. From the supreme Spirit of the God proceeded Hiranya Garbha, alias Prajapathy, the first born of the God in the form of light. As soon as born, he became the savior of all the worlds. RgVeda X:121:1 Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:15-17 Slide 63: “Thasmaad virraada jaayathaviraajo adhi purusha:Sajaatho athyarichyathaPaschaad bhoomim adho pura:” From that male the universe came into being. From that body of the universe came the omnipresent Person. That Person thus became manifest, adopted various forms and character and created the earth and other planets along with the creatures to live in them.(Rigveda X:90:5) Aadi Purusha Slide 64: “Purusha evedam sarvamYadbhutham yacha bhavyamUthaamruthathwasya esaanaYa daannenathirohathi” This man, the first born of the God is all that was, all that is and all that has to be. And he comes to this world to give recompense to everybody as per his deeds. (Rigveda X:90:2) Rev 22:12 "Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. Slide 65: “Tham yajnam barhishi proukshanPurusham jaathamagrathaThena deva ayajanthaSadhya rushayaschaye” This man, the first born of the God, was tied to a wooden sacrificial post and the gods and the Kings along the seers performed the sacrifice‘Purushasookta’ Rigveda X:90:7 Slide 66: “Thamevam Vidwanamruthaiha bhavathyNanya pandha ayanaya vidyathe” This (sacrifice) is the only way for redemption and liberation of mankind. Those meditate and attain this man, believe in heart and chant with the lips, get liberated in this world itself and there is no other way for salvation too. Yajurveda XXXI:18, Rigveda X:90:16. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Slide 67: Pajapathy Vai idam agre aseetIn the beginning was Prajapathi, the GodTasyam vag dvitiya aseetWith whom was the Word Vag vai Parama BrahmaAnd the Word was verily the Supreme God Rg Veda John 1:1 Slide 68: Thus we see the Jesus Gospel Presented in Culturally relevant manner in the later scriptures of India. How? Why? Slide 69: Bhavishya Purana Bhavi = Future Bhavishya = Consequence Purana = Old Stories is a verbatim copy of The OLD TESTAMENT Only the names are Indianised Slide 70: In the eastern side of Pradan (Pradan means Main, Important, Capital of the country) city where there is a big God-given forest (Eden), which is 16 square yojanas in size. The man named Adama (Adam) was staying there under a Papa-Vriksha or a sinful tree (Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil) and was eager to see his wife Havyavati. (Hovah) ‘Prathisargaparvam’4:28 Adam & Hovah – Garden of Eden – Tree of Good and Evil Slide 71: Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made He cheated them and they disobeyed Lord Vishnu (Yahweh is here identified with Vishnu). The husband ate the forbidden fruit of the sinful tree. They lived by eating air with the leaves called udumbara It is strange that when copying the story from the book of Genesis, even the fact that the generations after Adam till Noah were vegetarians was acknowledged. The Kali purusha quickly came there assuming the form of a serpent. Slide 72: After they had sons and all of them became mlecchas. sinners All Adamic race became sinful Slide 73: Adama's duration of life was nine hundred and thirty years Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. He offered oblations with fruits and went to heaven with his wife. His son was named Sveta-nama ( Seth- nama = name), and he lived nine-hundred and twelve years. Genesis 5:8 and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. Sveta-nama's son was Anuta (Enosh), who ruled one-hundred years less than his father. Genesis 5:10 and Enosh lived after he begat Kenan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: Slide 74: Genesis 5:14 His son Kinasa (Kenan) ruled as much as his grandfather. Genesis 5:17 His son Malahalla (Mahalalel) ruled eight-hundred ninety five years. Genesis 5:20 His son Virada (Jared) ruled 960 years. Slide 75: His son Hamuka (Enoch) was devoted to Lord Vishnu, and offering oblations of fruits he achieved salvation. He ruled 365 years and went to heaven with the same body being engaged in mleccha-dharma. Genesis 5:23 and all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. Enoch Slide 76: Genesis 5:31 His son Lomaka (Lamech) ruled 777 years and went to heaven. His son Nyuha (Noah) ruled for 500 years. He had three sons named Sima, Sama and Bhava. (And Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth. ) Nyuha was a devotee of Lord Vishnu. Once the Lord appeared in his dream and said: “My dear Nyuha, please listen, there will be devastation on the seventh day. Therefore, you have to be very quick that you make a big boat and ride in it. O chief of the devotees, you will be celebrated as a great king”. Noah’ Flood Slide 77: Then he made a strong boat which was 300 feet long, 50 feet wide and 30 feet high. It was beautiful and all the living entities could take shelter in it. He then himself rode in it, engaged in meditating on Lord Vishnu.Genesis 6:15 And this is how thou shalt make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. Slide 78: Lord Indra called the devastating cloud named Sambartaka and poured heavy rain continuously for 40 days. Genesis 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. Slide 79: The whole earth, Bharat-varsa, had merged in the water and four oceans came up together. Only Visala or Badarikasrama was not submerged. There were 80,000 great transcendentalists in Visala who joined with king Nyuha and his family. All of them were saved and everything else was destroyed. Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after Nephilim (Gen_6:4; Num_13:33, R.V.), giants, the Hebrew word left untranslated by the Revisers, the name of one of the Canaanitish tribes. The Revisers have, however, translated the Hebrew gibborim, in Gen_6:4, "mighty men." Nephilim Slide 80: The total time of the flood of Noah works out to be exactly one year when we add all the various phases. Slide 81: The Story goes on till Abraham Slide 82: [From the 29th chapter of the Pratisarga Parva.]Then it was predicted that a master (Patriarch) will come by the name of Moosa (Moses) and his faith will spread all over the world. Slide 83: When the era of Kali has reached three thousand years Jesus Christ appears with the name “Easa Maseeha” in the land of Huna. . King Shaka asked “May I know, who you are!”. With apparent joy that male replied “Know that I am the Son of God. I am born in the womb of a virgin. ‘Easa Maseeha’ is my well known name”. (Bhavashya purana- Prathisarga parva, IIIrd part- 2ndchapter- 23rd verse Slide 84: It is certain therefore that India was very well aware of the Semitic religions and also knew Jesus as Esa Massih They knew the Old Testament and the New Testament stories Slide 85: New Concepts Slide 86: Evidence from Om concept THE LOGOS Slide 87: AUM is not found in the ancient Rig-Veda. Or in any of the Vedas Slide 88: The threefold constituents of – A U M - are referred to, in the Prashna-Upanishad (V.5). and the symbolic elaboration of this is found in the Mândûkya-Upanishad. Even the early Upanishads written in Sanskrit, refer to it only indirectly as the udgîtha (“up sound”) and the pranava (“pronouncing”). 4th Century AD Slide 89: In the Yoga-Sûtra (1.27),it is called the Word (vâcaka) of the Lord (îshvara). Slide 90: the symbol and mantra AUM emerged in Indian scene soon after the mission of St.Thomas the Apostle and seen only after that time. All early churches in the Malankara had used this as the Christian symbol and appear at the entrance of the seven original churches. Slide 91: AUM was clearly part of the Malankara Christian tradition from the first century, associate it with the Christian Trinity and to Christ – the word who became flesh. An objective conclusion would be that Aum was indeed the original Christian concept as introduced by Thomas. Slide 92: The Word became Flesh Slide 93: John 1:1 The whole Eastern Church Theology is condensed in this representation Lotus faced Jagnath CONCEPT OF GOD Slide 94: Lord Jagannath Deity Faces and Sesha Naga Jaganath- Father Baladeva- Son Paramatma – Spirit Goswami interpretation Trinity Slide 95: Baladev- Son Subhadra – Spirit Jagnnath- Father White face Visible form Sakthi Red Fire/ Energy Black face Incomprehensiblesunya Trinity Slide 96: Siva Lingam The Form of the Formless Trinity Slide 97: The earliest direct portrayal of hinduism Shiva Linga Gupta, Early 5th century AD Udayagiri, Madhya Pradesh, India ekamukha Form without form Siv linga Became Man Slide 98: VaishnavaTilak Slide 99: Pillayar Concept Appan, Amma and Makan How did the Son get the elephant face? SON OF GOD Slide 100: This is an image of the rock cut Karpaka Vinayakar At Pillayarpatti Karaikkudi 400 AD. The earliest Vinayakar idol Slide 101: Karpaga Vinayakar is one of the oldest Vinayakar images in the world for it has only two arms. The significance of the two arms is that God came in the form of man. Slide 102: Later on to show the superiority of God to man the head of the man was removed and in its place a head in the shape of OM was fixed. The OM head was similar to that of an elephant. There are only two images of Vinayakars with two arms in the world. Slide 103: Valampuri Vinayagar The elephant faced Ganapathy (The Lord of Host), the son of Siva came out of the symbolism of Word becoming Flesh – the Incarnation. Slide 104: Gana Pathi Lord of Hosts Slide 105: Elephanta Caves, Off Bombay Sadasiva Murthy Slide 106: The enigmatic image of Trimurthi Sadasiva Tatpurusha-Mahadeva three faces Vamadeva-Uma (feminine - right side) Aghora-Bhairava (Masculine Fierce – left side) Slide 107: Basic doctrinal aspects of Saivism and Vaishnavism Doctrine of Trinity Doctrine of Avatar Doctrine of Fulfillment of Sacrifice Doctrine of Forgiveness of Sin Doctrine of Salvation through Faith (Bhakthi Marga) Slide 108: All documentary evidence thus suggest that both Saivism and Vaishnavism are the offshoots of Early Indian Christianity 4 Slide 109: Siva's roots are from Isa Maheswara Parameswara Isa Slide 110: The Stones Cry out Archaelogical Evidences 5 Slide 111: Ajantha Ellora Cave Temples of Maharashtra 200 BC – 500 AD Buddhist Monasteries Slide 112: Sanchi Buddhist Stupa was erected by Ashoka Maurya in the middle of the 3d century BC : Impossing Budhist Structures in BC But NO Hindu Temples or Structures ! Slide 114: The earliest “Hindu” Temple Tigawa, near modern Jabalpur Dated Gupta Dynasty AD 350 - 650 Slide 115: In the early period the Christian Churches of Kerala has the same model as of Hindu temples Piravaom Church Aranmula Temple Vasco-da-Gama in entered a Kali temple at Calicut mistaking it for a Christian church. Slide 116: Kapaleeshwarar temple The temple is located in Mylapore,... This was probably the Cathedral of Thomas Evidences of Christian heritage is found here. Slide 117: “More importantly, evidences have emerged, especially in the book ‘The Saint Thomas Myth' in India by Ved Prakash, for the existence of the Shiva temple, which might have been the original Kapaleeswara Temple.” (Hamsa.org) Slide 118: It means modern HINDUISM began as an Indian Christian Church Hindu Sanadhana Dharma = Indian Catholic Church Slide 119: Where is Jesus of Nazareth? What happenned? Slide 120: Gnosticism – the first enemy of Christian Churches came to India after the 2nd century. Slide 121: Manichaenism The Forgotten Factor in India – Manichæism How come the teachings are so distorted from Christian teachings today? Slide 122: Mani A.D. 215-276 of Mardinu in Babylonia. Mani’s father was a Mandaen The only surviving Gnostic religion, now with no more than 20,000 adherents, living in southern Iraq and southwestern Iran. Their main city is Nasiriyya. They are often called the Christians of Saint John Mandaen in Aramaic stand for 'knowledge', i.e. Greek 'gnosis'. Slide 123: Mandaen Slide 124: "As once Buddha came to India, Zoroaster to Persia, and Jesus to the lands of the West, so came in the present time, this prophecy through me, the Mani, to the land of Babylonia” On Sunday, 20 March, A.D. 242, Mani first proclaimed his gospel in the royal residence, Gundesapor, on the coronation day of Sapor Slide 125: For many years Mani traveled abroad, founding Manichæan communities in Turkestan and India. To the Buddhists Mani became Buddha and to the Christians Mani became the Apostle of Jesus and the Paraclete whom Jesus Promised. Slide 127: Bala Subra Manian Skanda Murugan Magician Manica Vachagar Alexander the Great -xander Slide 128: Gnostic Sophia Hindu Lakshmi : Gnosticism = Modern Hinduism Novel beliefs about Gods. (Denying the Lord) Development of myths.(Fables and fantasies) Tolerance of different religious beliefs within and outside of Gnosticism. A belief that salvation is achieved through knowledge. Slide 130: Bardesanes – the Syrian poet came to India sometime in the 3c AD. He is said to have had a controversy with Mani in Ayroor He went back and wrote the “Acts of Thomas” The major force in Gnostic take over came through Manichaen Slide 131: We know that there ensued a persecution to the Christian communities in the Andhra and Tamil areas, that they were forced to migrate to Quilon and Thiruvanthapuram in Kerala around 300 AD. We also know that they were persued by the then leaders of Hinduism. AD 293 Immigration of 72 Christian families Cauverypoopatanam Puhur Village to Kollam Manicaen followed them and reconverted some North Aryans were VaishnavitesBrahmins took over South Dravids were Saivites Slide 132: FORMATION OF HINDUISM Slide 133: 31 December 1600 15 August 1947 Clive Religion of India totally baffled them Warren Hasting Christian Hindu BRITISH RULE Slide 134: CHRISTIAN MUSLIM HINDU All others which we cannot understand Slide 135: Invented by the British Administration 250 years saw eight generations go by who were totally brainwashed into thinking they were part of a religion called Hinduism - which really meant ‘of India’. During Indian Independence Movement this unification of religion became very important Slide 136: THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT “Hindu Relgion” became a Political expediency as a unification HINDU MUSLIM SIKH ISSAI Slide 137: Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891 Theosophical Society Founded in New York City in 1875 Col. Olcott In 1886, it was decided to shift the headquarters of the society to its present location in Adayar, Madras. Slide 138: [ 1847 –1933 Annie Besant and others first discussed Home Rule, leading to the call that led to the founding of the Indian National Congress and the birth of the Freedom Movement. “One God, One Religion and One Nation” Slide 139: Under Heaven One Family Harijan idea Slide 141: 1863-1902 Slide 142: Arya Samaj founded Maharishi Swami Dayanand Saraswati April 7,1875 at Mumbai, India Hinduism is a pure Vedic religion. Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam - Make This World Aryan.- Slide 143: Lack of any temples prior to AD 300 dedicated to any of the gods or avatars indicates that even though Indian culture dates back to 8000 BC., the Hindu culture as envisioned today did not exist far beyond the third century AD. The great antiquity of Indian mythology and philosophies are simply a myth created very recently for political and social gains. : Modern Hinduism Thomas Mani Theosophy Slide 146: Today "manipulative reinterpretation of cultural material" and "invention of tradition" = Hindutava Slide 147: Malankara churches had always been in touch with the rest of the Catholic churches in Antioch, Alexandria and Rome Slide 148: Thus by the third century, Malankara Churches remained within the Universal Historical Church Slide 149: The rest of the Indian Churches went Gnostic and became Hindu. They lost the Jesus of history and ended up with myths. Gnosticism swallowed Christianity Slide 150: This ends the study on Indus Slide 151: Archeology of Kerala To God's Own Land Kerala Slide 152: Kerala - a secret between Hill and Sea Slide 153: Open to wide world through the sea. Slide 154: Archeology of Kerala Slide 155: K.P.Soundrarajan, Director, Archaeology Survey of India, 1978 THE EALIEST HINDU IDOLS OF KERALA Vigrahas (Idols) in Kerala came later than 8th C AD Slide 156: Aja Eka Pada: First appears in Thondamandalam in the 8th C., in Cholamandalam in the 11th C., in Pandimandalam in the 13th C. ArdhaNareeswara: Appears in S.India only after the 7th C. and in Kerala only after the 9th C. AnanthaShayi: South India 6th C. and Kerala 8th C. DakshinaMoorthy: Kerala 8th C. Ganesha: Kerala 8th C. Harihara: Kerala 11th C. varahareshvara: 13th C. Jeshta: 11th C. Lingothbhava: Post-11th C. SapthaMatha: 14th C. TriMoorthy: 8th C. Slide 157: Vigrahas (Idols) in Kerala came later than 8th C AD On the other hand Slide 158: The Pahlavi crosses are much older than any Hindu Vigraha. Slide 159: KOTTAYAM VALIA PALLI SOME OF THEM DATE FIRST CENTURY AD Slide 160: KALABHRA INTERREGNUM THE DARK AGES OF SOUTH INDIA Slide 161: Literature Flourished Slide 162: ”Historians speculate that these people followed Buddhist or Jain faiths and were antagonistic towards the Hindu and Brahminical religions adhered by the majority of inhabitants of the Tamil region during the early centuries C.E. As a result Hindu scholars and authors who followed their decline in the 7th and 8th century C.E. may have expunged any mention of them in their texts and generally tended to paint their rule in a negative light. It is perhaps due to this reason, the period of their rule is known as a ‘Dark Age’ – an “interregnum”. Wikipedia Slide 163: Who are the Kalabhras? What do we know? Slide 164: Who are the Kalabhras? + The identification of the Kalabhras is difficult. Historians base their assumption on the phonetics: + Muttaraiyar of Kondubalur + Karnatas of Madurai. + Kalappalar, Vellala tribes + Kalavar, Tiraiyan of Pavattiri and Pulli of Vengadam or Tirupati - cattle lifting robber chief Slide 165: Who are the Kalabhras? Evidence from Sangam Literature King Achchutavikranta of the Kalabharakula, as ruling over the Chola country from Kaveripatnam. ! Slide 166: Who are the Kalabhras? "Cerobothras' of the Periplus Pliny the Roman historian of the first century calls them as Caelobothras. Asoka’s Keralaputras Slide 167: Kalabhra Interregnum was the result of an attempt to obliterate the Christian Period of Caelobothras Slide 168: Mahabali: A demon who conquered several worlds; to end his tyranny Lord Vishnu incarnated as a dwarf Slide 169: Mahabali = Great Sacrifice = CHRIST This story is in effect the story of how Christianity in Kerala was defeated by Hindus. This is also supported by pre-cosmic myth of Palaazhi Mathanam in which Mahabali was killed and was brought back to life. Slide 170: Asu- ra asu = (breath) Asuras are those who were created by the breath of God, who has the Holy Spirit within them. Slide 171: Christians? Slide 172: The term asura corresponds to the Zoroastrian word Ahura. In Zoroastrianism the Ahuras are supreme, while the devas are demonic. AHURA MAZDA Slide 173: “Mahabali was an Asura King who was defeated by the Suras by trick. In the Rig-Veda, the Asuras are shown as spiritual, divine beings. Their etymology is derived from asu (breath), the "Breath of God," thus, Asuras are those who were created by the breath of God, who has the Holy Spirit within them. It is later on, after Brahminic domination, they are shown issuing from Brahma's thigh, and that their name began to be derived from “a”, primitive, and sura, god (solar deities), which is interpreted as “not-a-god.” (Madame H. P. Blavatsky in `The Secret Doctrine', II, 59 ) Slide 174: The word asura is formed from the word asu with the addition of the suffix ra and means 'one full of ra spiritual life and 'by curious process of semantical change a – sura came to mean a demon.' Pt. Satya Vrat - Ramayana - A Linguistic Study Slide 175: The Asuras “The asuras "are the sons of the primeval Creative Breath at the beginning of every new Maha Kalpa, or Manvantara; in the same rank as the Angels who had remained 'faithful.' These were the allies of Soma (the parent of the Esoteric Wisdom) as against Brishaspati (representing ritualistic or ceremonial worship). Evidently they have been degraded in Space and Time into opposing powers or demons by the ceremonialists, on account of their rebellion against hypocrisy, sham-worship, and the dead-letter form" (Secret Doctrines 2:500). Theosophical Society - Madam Blavinsky. Slide 176: "Maveli Nadu Vanidum Kalam Manusharellarum Onnupole Amodathode vasikum kalam apathangarkumottilla thanum Adhikal Vyadhikal Onnumilla Bala maranangal Kelkanilla Kallavumilla ChathivumillaEllolamilla Poli Vachanam Kallaparyum Cheru NazhiyumKallatharangal mattonumilla When Maveli, our King, rules the land, All the peoples form one casteless race. And people live joyful and merry; They are free from all harms. There is neither theft nor deceit, And no one is false in speech either. Measures and weights are right; No one cheats or wrongs the neighbor. When Maveli, our King, rules the land, All the peoples form one casteless race. Slide 177: is the only festival which Christians celebrate in common with Hindus Slide 178: A veritable Kingdom of God in the fashion of the early Christian community in Jerusalem was in existence under the Christian Kingdom of Maha Bali. Slide 179: Mahabali’s Aswamedha took place at the banks of NARMADA Probable extent of Mahabali’s Kingdom Slide 181: Hindu Christendom extended intially from Taxila to Kerala. Mahabali was a Christian King And may be dated before 4th century This Kingdom was destroyed by deceit by the entry of Vaihnava heresy within the Church. It is the little foxes that spoils the vineyard (Proverbs) Slide 182: Gnostic influence came by the 3rd or 4th C The Vamana story describes this entry Slide 183: Pallavas were of Syrian origin And Vaishnavites Slide 184: The legend of Slide 185: The legend of Prester John (also Presbyter John), popular in Europe from the 12th through the 17th centuries Slide 186: Reportedly a descendant of one of the Three Magi, Prester John was said to be a generous ruler and a virtuous man, presiding over a realm full of riches and strange creatures, elephants and pea cocks,in which the Patriarch of St. Thomas resided. Slide 187: The only religion when Thomas came to Kerala apart from Budhism and Jainism were Nature Worshippers(Probably Aryan) and Mother Goddess (Bhagavathy) worshippers. Slide 188: The Population of Kerala at 1C AD 300,000 Slide 189: was the main religion of Kerala until 8thC AD Slide 190: KERALA SCENARIO Slide 191: Later Brahmans came to Kerala around 6thC AD and the Chera kingdom of Mahodayapuram. Parasurama myth Slide 192: CHAVETTU PADA In the feudal society of Kerala there were suicide squads, whose motto was to kill or get killed. These dare-devil type of soldiers were known as Chavettupada. The members of the squads were dedicated to the presiding deities of famous temples and the soldiers were supposed to carry out the orders of the goddess in fighting the enemies. The soldiers were given rigorous training in the martial arts and were maintained for the protection of famous temples. Slide 193: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins (Chavaar Pada) Dr. Kesavan Veluthat “Known variously as the Chatter or Chattirar, these arms-bearing Brahmanans are seen in records from different parts of India from the post-Gupta period onwards. It is from Kerala that we have the clearest information about them. Slide 194: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins Dr. Kesavan Veluthat We hear about the significant institutions called Salais, which imparted military training to these Brahmanan youth in different parts of Kerala – some of them had been looked upon by the neighbouring rulers as a veritable military threat to them.,….. Slide 195: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins (Chavaar Pada) Namboothiri Website Trust: Dr. Kesavan Veluthat : In any case, Namboothiris had become a significant economic, social and political force by the time the Chera Perumals were ruling over Kerala. This justifies the statement of a modern historian that the polity under the Cheras of Mahodayapuram was in reality a Brahmanan oligarchy and that the Brahmanans constituted the real power behind the throne. Slide 196: The Suicide Squads of Brahmins (Chavaar Pada) In fact, the statements in Keralolpathi as well as other historical sources, that it was the Brahmanans who put the Chera king on the throne, mean the same thing. ” Namboothiri Website Trust Dr. Kesavan Veluthat : http://www.namboothiri.com/articles/history.htm Slide 197: Pallavas were of Syrian origin And Vaishnavites Perumals were Vaishnavites Slide 198: Ten Incarnations of Vishnu & Christianity Slide 199: Matsyavatara (fish), Koorma (tortoise), Varaaha (boar), Narasimha (the man lion), Vaamana (the dwarf), Parasurama (Rama with Axe), Rama Balarama Krishna Kalki Slide 200: The fight between Historic Christianity and Gnosticism started beyond India from beyond the sea. Slide 201: Kurma Tortoise - Kasyapa Kashyapa's penance was being done at the place known in modern times as Mount Abu. Kasyapa was the father of Vamana Slide 202: Srimad-Bhagavatam 2:7:1 Varaha Battles Hiranyaksa Hiranyaksa was the younger brother of Hiranya Kasipu Slide 203: Nara Simha kills Hiranya Kasipu Hiranya Kasipu Prahalada Virochana The betrayer Slide 204: Virochana Maha Bali Slide 205: Vaishnava Invasion of Kerala Parasu Rama Slide 206: Maha Bali Bana Ravana Rama Slide 208: Does the Dasavatara Describe the Wars between Gnostics & Christians? Slide 209: * In marriage, * in amorous dealings, * when one's life is in danger * when the whole of one's possession is going to be lost, and *when a Brahman's interest is at stake untruth should be told. The wise have said that speaking untruth on these five occasions is not a sin. Finding Yudhisthira unwilling to tell a lie, Krishna said: Vasishtha's Smrithi Slide 210: A similar transformation took place in Europe. The Roman Catholic Church is an example of Hinduism of Europe. “In the traditional Christmas Eve celebrations of the Ramakrishna Order, when the worship centers on a representation of the Virgin and Child and the liturgical prayers and hymns and offerings are made to Mary as much as to Jesus.” Hindu Sanadhana Dharma = Indian Catholic Church Slide 211: Indian Scenario Kerala Scenario Aryan entry Arrival of St.Thomas Vamana Conquest- First Arayan Conquest Mahabali Nadu Manicaen Heresy Parasu Rama Second Aryan Conquest Hinduism - idols appear Nair Warrior Kings Theosophical Society Manicaen Heresy Slide 212: "Asato ma sat gamaya (From illusion lead me to the Truth); Jesus is the Truth (John 14:6; John 8:32). Tamaso ma jyotir gamaya (From darkness lead me to Light);Jesus is the Light (John 8:12). Mrityur ma amritam gamaya (From death lead me to Immortality)".Jesus is the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25). (Bryhad Aranyak Upanishad 1.3.28)