logging in or signing up Why won't Autostream let us talk? corvettably Download Post to : URL : Related Presentations : Share Add to Flag Embed Email Send to Blogs and Networks Add to Channel Uploaded from authorPOINT lite Insert YouTube videos in PowerPont slides with aS Desktop Copy embed code: (To copy code, click on the text box) Embed: URL: Thumbnail: WordPress Embed Customize Embed The presentation is successfully added In Your Favorites. Views: 1224 Category: Science & Tech.. License: All Rights Reserved Like it (1) Dislike it (0) Added: October 19, 2009 This Presentation is Public Favorites: 0 Presentation Description A reply to Autostream Comments Posting comment... Premium member Presentation Transcript Slide 1: Autostream’s fairytales: Since Autostream has made it impossible for dissenting views to be posted without his approval I have put together this quick slide show. Clearly Autostream feels his distortions and outright lies can’t be defended otherwise he wouldn’t refuse comments and he would discuss the material as he did on Motortrend’s forum (search “Autostream Motortrend forum”) Slide 2: Autostream hates the Corvette. That’s fine. However, why add distortions, lies and all the BS? Let’s look at his “facts” and his “presentation” Slide 3: Autostream claims the Corvette uses a ladder frame. GM, Dana and Alcoa claim say it’s a space frame. Autostream says we should take his word because he’s done “research”... He doesn’t like to post that research and refuses to debate. He did debate on MotorTrend’s forum but left because the people didn’t agree with him… wonder why. Slide 4: Hell, he doesn’t even let people post on his videos because he doesn’t like it when people show he’s wrong! Slide 5: He says the Corvette’s hydroformed perimeter rails make it a ladder frame. Funny, lot’s of chassis including the S2000 use perimeter rails. Autostream says ladder frame because it has 2 rails and it isn’t a unibody or monocoque. Well the Ferrari 360 isn’t a unibody or monocoque either. I guess it must be a ladder frame. Slide 6: So at frist Autostream said space frame wasn’t a chassis type. After pointing out a racecar chassis design book that disagreed he back peddled (funny that). In it’s purest form a space frame is a pure truss chassis. All the links are triangulated like a TV antenna tower. In real life that almost never happens. Almost all chassis have some beams in bending. Slide 7: The Ferrari 360 chassis and the Audi R8 chassis are both called space frames by their makers. They have some triangulated sections but they are not truss element structures. Like the Corvette structure they rely on some triangulation, some sheet metal stress skin areas and some larger, stiff beams. But Autostream said if it’s not a pure truss structure it can’t be a space frame…. Slide 8: Autostream is big on demanding proof but he provides little. He said the Corvette chassis is very flexible. He didn’t provide numbers. He was willing to take a quote from the C5R racing team out of context but when I posted that the C6R racing team said the stock Z06 chassis has a torsional stiffness of 10,000 lbft/deg he questioned the source. Funny, it’s an OK source when they say something he likes… Slide 9: He didn’t like that 10,000 lbft/deg number because it’s within 7% of the stiffness of the Ferrari 360 coupe (13,500 Nm/deg vs 14,400 Nm/deg). He doesn’t want to post numbers but he want’s to question mine. He claims different tests, different day. He is right but that could mean that 7% is actually smaller, not larger. Slide 10: Autostream is big on slandering and obfuscation. He said no chassis engineer “he talked” to disagreed with him. When I asked if he talked to any he deleted the post! He talks about the scientific method but then says he is to brilliant to have to prove his own BS. He refuses to discuss the topic on an open forum. Slide 11: He claims the car is prone to snap oversteer. Interesting. The Corvette isn’t known for snap oversteer. Power induced oversteer, sure. Of course a bad work man blames his tools. Bad drivers… Why hasn’t someone posted a response to his claim… Slide 12: He is so afraid of people calling is BS that he screens all his YouTube postings and disables his video ratings. He sure does seem to hate disagreement… or even discussions… or facts… But man he loves to rip off Top Gear! You do not have the permission to view this presentation. In order to view it, please contact the author of the presentation.
Why won't Autostream let us talk? corvettably Download Post to : URL : Related Presentations : Share Add to Flag Embed Email Send to Blogs and Networks Add to Channel Uploaded from authorPOINT lite Insert YouTube videos in PowerPont slides with aS Desktop Copy embed code: (To copy code, click on the text box) Embed: URL: Thumbnail: WordPress Embed Customize Embed The presentation is successfully added In Your Favorites. Views: 1224 Category: Science & Tech.. License: All Rights Reserved Like it (1) Dislike it (0) Added: October 19, 2009 This Presentation is Public Favorites: 0 Presentation Description A reply to Autostream Comments Posting comment... Premium member Presentation Transcript Slide 1: Autostream’s fairytales: Since Autostream has made it impossible for dissenting views to be posted without his approval I have put together this quick slide show. Clearly Autostream feels his distortions and outright lies can’t be defended otherwise he wouldn’t refuse comments and he would discuss the material as he did on Motortrend’s forum (search “Autostream Motortrend forum”) Slide 2: Autostream hates the Corvette. That’s fine. However, why add distortions, lies and all the BS? Let’s look at his “facts” and his “presentation” Slide 3: Autostream claims the Corvette uses a ladder frame. GM, Dana and Alcoa claim say it’s a space frame. Autostream says we should take his word because he’s done “research”... He doesn’t like to post that research and refuses to debate. He did debate on MotorTrend’s forum but left because the people didn’t agree with him… wonder why. Slide 4: Hell, he doesn’t even let people post on his videos because he doesn’t like it when people show he’s wrong! Slide 5: He says the Corvette’s hydroformed perimeter rails make it a ladder frame. Funny, lot’s of chassis including the S2000 use perimeter rails. Autostream says ladder frame because it has 2 rails and it isn’t a unibody or monocoque. Well the Ferrari 360 isn’t a unibody or monocoque either. I guess it must be a ladder frame. Slide 6: So at frist Autostream said space frame wasn’t a chassis type. After pointing out a racecar chassis design book that disagreed he back peddled (funny that). In it’s purest form a space frame is a pure truss chassis. All the links are triangulated like a TV antenna tower. In real life that almost never happens. Almost all chassis have some beams in bending. Slide 7: The Ferrari 360 chassis and the Audi R8 chassis are both called space frames by their makers. They have some triangulated sections but they are not truss element structures. Like the Corvette structure they rely on some triangulation, some sheet metal stress skin areas and some larger, stiff beams. But Autostream said if it’s not a pure truss structure it can’t be a space frame…. Slide 8: Autostream is big on demanding proof but he provides little. He said the Corvette chassis is very flexible. He didn’t provide numbers. He was willing to take a quote from the C5R racing team out of context but when I posted that the C6R racing team said the stock Z06 chassis has a torsional stiffness of 10,000 lbft/deg he questioned the source. Funny, it’s an OK source when they say something he likes… Slide 9: He didn’t like that 10,000 lbft/deg number because it’s within 7% of the stiffness of the Ferrari 360 coupe (13,500 Nm/deg vs 14,400 Nm/deg). He doesn’t want to post numbers but he want’s to question mine. He claims different tests, different day. He is right but that could mean that 7% is actually smaller, not larger. Slide 10: Autostream is big on slandering and obfuscation. He said no chassis engineer “he talked” to disagreed with him. When I asked if he talked to any he deleted the post! He talks about the scientific method but then says he is to brilliant to have to prove his own BS. He refuses to discuss the topic on an open forum. Slide 11: He claims the car is prone to snap oversteer. Interesting. The Corvette isn’t known for snap oversteer. Power induced oversteer, sure. Of course a bad work man blames his tools. Bad drivers… Why hasn’t someone posted a response to his claim… Slide 12: He is so afraid of people calling is BS that he screens all his YouTube postings and disables his video ratings. He sure does seem to hate disagreement… or even discussions… or facts… But man he loves to rip off Top Gear!