Lucretius5Spring

Slide1: 

On the Nature of Things

Atomic Theory of the Soul: 

Atomic Theory of the Soul Soul is made of atoms, just like everything else (III, 161). The body acts like a vessel for the soul (III, 555). When body dies, soul atoms are no longer contained in their proper arrangement. Soul is destroyed at the body’s death (III, 440). Soul can’t exist without a living body…

Slide3: 

…any more than Frosty the Snowman could be made…

Slide4: 

…out of water.

Soul is not Immortal: 

Soul is not Immortal Soul develops and deteriorates along with rest of body (III, 445). Soul infected by disease and alcohol just like body (III, 465-85). If soul pre-existed body, it would remember doing so (III, 670). Etc.

Irrelevance of the gods: 

Irrelevance of the gods Gods do exist—made of atoms. Gods live far outside our world. Gods did not create our world. Gods do not intervene in our world, and have no relevance to us. We have ideas about the gods from dreams. Gods have no more importance than distant planets and stars.

Irrationality of Fear: 

Irrationality of Fear Should we fear the gods? No—they take no interest in us. Should we fear death? No… “Death is nothing to us” (III, 830).

Fear of Death?: 

Fear of Death? Fear of dying. Fear of after-life—Hell? Uncertainty? Fear of there being nothing after death—Death as THE END.

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Epicurus: “Death is nothing to us, since when we exist death is not yet present, and when death is present then we do not exist.” Lucretius’ “Loss” argument (III, 894-903). Lucretius’ “Symmetry” argument (III, 971-977).

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Lucretius’ “Loss” argument (III, 894-903)

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Your teddy bear will end up in the trash. Something is bad for you only if you mind it. If you don’t mind it, it wouldn’t be a bad thing for you. You won’t care about your teddy bear then. It won’t be a bad thing for you then that your teddy bear ends up in the trash.

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death You will die. Something is bad for you only if you mind it. If you don’t mind it, it wouldn’t be a bad thing for you. You won’t mind being dead when you are dead. It won’t be a bad thing for you then that are dead. Is that a good argument? Other cases?

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Is that a good argument? Other cases? You will be cut open… but you’ll be anesthetized. Is it irrational to fear something that won’t be bad for you when it happens? Tell a young idealist: You’ll be rich & corrupt. But by then you’ll want to be rich & you won’t mind being corrupt. Nothing to fear? Consolation? Regret?

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Can now fear the prospect of something that will happen later, even if you know later you won’t mind it. It makes it even worse that you now know that later you won’t care!

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Lucretius’ “Symmetry” argument (III, 971-977). You didn’t exist for many years in the past. There’s nothing fearful about that. So why be bothered by the fact that you won’t exist in the future?

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Birth: 1986 Death: 2066? You

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death Is death bad just because of your non-existence? Death is bad because it ends projects that you care about. But doesn’t your prior non-existence limit projects by causing you to start on them later?

Fear of Death: 

Fear of Death But if Lucretius is right that death is not bad, does this mean it is never bad? Does it not matter whether you die now, or 60 years from now? Perhaps it depends on your life-prospects. Is there some good to being alive regardless of what your life-prospects are?