Land & Vital Records in the Sunshine: Land & Vital Records in the Sunshine Bob Terwilliger, Lisa Goldsworthy & Carol Foglesong
NACRC Annual Conference
August 5, 2006
What will be covered?: What will be covered? On-going public access versus privacy issues
Washington experience
Florida experience
What’s happening in other states?
Media Reaction and Public Official Savvy
What is public access?: What is public access? Strong and long history of open access to records about land ownership and financial interests in land
Dates back to the Plymouth Rock
But we’ve moved from “practical obscurity” to international access
If we have it, you may search it
If we have it, you may have a copy of it
Long history for gathering and preserving Vital Records (birth, marriage, death)
Not always open to “just anyone”
But available to those with a recognized personal interest/relationship
What are privacy issues? : What are privacy issues? You have no right to know more about me than I am willing to share
Fear of theft (financial, physical, identity)
It’s no one’s business what I own or how much I owe
If you make MY information public, someone will misuse it
What does public access provide?: What does public access provide? Fuel to the national economic engine
Home-ownership as the American Dream
Ability to verify what someone claims they own
Is it free? Should it be?: Is it free? Should it be? Variations across the country
Statutes have not always kept pace with technology changes
When submitter pays at time of recording, what are they paying for?
Act of recording?
Preservation of document for future?
Copies whenever wanted?
Some variations include: Some variations include What you can see when in-office varies from what can see when on the web
You can see, but you can/can’t copy for free (In office? From web?)
Index data versus recorded document images
What’s a reasonable cost?: What’s a reasonable cost? $1/page is most common statutory price
Consider:
Paper versus microfilm versus electronic image
Single document versus large number of documents versus month’s or year’s worth
Legislate versus business decision
Reasonable price versus consistent price
Within the state versus across the country
Other cost considerations: Other cost considerations Storage media costs
Paper
Microfilm
Electronic
Transfer media costs
Paper
Duplicate microfilm
CDs
FTP
What is Personally Identifiable Information?: What is Personally Identifiable Information? Social security number?
Date of birth?
Driver’s license number?
Financial institution account numbers (bank account, credit cards, loan numbers)?
Mother’s maiden name?
Signature?
Washington Custodian of Records : Washington Custodian of Records In the State of Washington, County Auditors are “Recording Officers” or “Custodians of Records.”
The Revised Code of Washington (Titles 65 and 36) define the minimum information required for each instrument recorded and the applicable fees for recording.
Washington Recording Fees : Washington Recording Fees County General Fund $ 5.00 1st Page
$ 1.00 Each add’l page
$ 1.00 County historical programs
Preservation of Historical Documents $ 4.00
(Operations & Maintenance)
Archives and Records Management $ 2.00
(State)
Affordable Housing $10.00
(State / Local)
Ending Homelessness $10.00
(State / Local)
Mortgage Lending Fraud $ 1.00 Deed of Trusts Only
(State)
Washington Document StandardizationJanuary 1997: Washington Document Standardization January 1997 Documents submitted for recording in Washington State must conform to standards set by RCW 65.04
The first page of the document or the cover sheet must include:
Title(s)
Reference Number(s)
Grantor(s)
Grantee(s)
Legal Description
Assessor's Parcel Number
Washington Document Standardization – Revised July 2005: Washington Document Standardization – Revised July 2005 Any instrument, except those generated by governmental agencies, may not contain:
A social security number;
A date of birth identified with a particular person; or,
The maiden name of a person's parent so as to be identified with a particular person.
Washington Public Disclosure – DD214s: Washington Public Disclosure – DD214s Effective 7/1/2002 Military Discharge records may be released only to the
Veteran
Veteran's next of kin (RCW 42.56.440: Next of kin is defined as widow or widower who has not remarried, son, daughter, father, mother, brother and sister)
Deceased veteran's properly appointed personal representative or executor
A person holding the veteran's general power of attorney, or
Individuals designated by the veteran (must be filed in same location as discharge record).
Washington Public Access: Washington Public Access Many counties across the Washington provide online access in one form or another, including:
Full access to images and index data
Index only access
Limited document access
Subscription only access
One county will redact SSNs from all documents prior to posting images / data online
Washington 2006 Privacy Legislation: Washington 2006 Privacy Legislation HB 2750 – Disclosure of Federal Social Security Numbers in recorded documents:
This bill, which died in committee, would have required county auditors to prevent public disclosure of social security numbers in any recorded document unless the holder of that number has given written permission for its disclosure or it is requested by a government agency.
A surcharge of $1 per fee document would have been added to the fee for each document recorded to cover the costs of redaction
Washington Privacy Issues Continue: Washington Privacy Issues Continue A former federal prosecutor and now King County Councilman fears the county's web site is a gold mine for identity thieves scouring the Internet for victims.
These fears were announced publicly June 27, 2006.
In response, King County’s Director of Records stated disabling access to online documents "would severely affect those who have come to rely on the web site," including citizens, title companies, surveyors, escrow agents and law-enforcement agencies.”
There has not been a single case where public documents filed with a County Auditor have been used for the purpose of identity theft.
Florida’s Experience: Florida’s Experience Government in the Sunshine (1979)
Chapter 119, F.S.
Everything is open and available to the public
Public has access to all records and able to make copies of anything
Oh, did we really say everything? We meant almost everything…
Florida Exceptions: Florida Exceptions Some 110 amendments; at least one each year for 27 years
Law Enforcement & Public Safety Officials’ home address to be protected
New protected groups added each year
New parameters added; not much consistency
Unintended consequences perennially being “tweaked”
Florida 2000: Florida 2000 Section 28.2221 enacted 2000
State law intention: “a proper and legitimate state purpose is served…” = OR Index and images should be more accessible
Index data 1/1/1990 to present must be placed on Internet by 1/1/2002
Images of all document on index to be placed on Internet by no later than 1/1/2006
9/11/01 Florida Reactions: 9/11/01 Florida Reactions Don’t want information so accessible; changed the laws in May 2002
Created Section 28.221(5)(a): categories of documents which are not to be viewable on the Internet (but may be seen in office)
Death Certificates
Military Discharges
Court papers from juvenile, mental health, domestic relations, or probate cases
Created Section 119.07(3)(ff): no social security, bank account, or credit card numbers on the Internet
You can ask to have your number(s) removed; no fee for service may be charged
Timeframes Modified: Timeframes Modified Gave recorders until 1/1/2006 (and then extended twice until 1/1/2008) to mask, or redact, the numbers
As of 1/1/2008, applies to both in-office and on Internet copies of documents
All 5 number types must be redacted (masked): ss#; bank account; charge, credit and debit card numbers
Orange County FL Experience: Orange County FL Experience 25 million images back to 1970; has now grown to nearly 30 million images
No time for staff to review images (refinancing boom, hot housing market, etc.)
Decided to go to outside contract instead
Chose software AND human eye
Cost estimated at just over $700,000 for 30 million images
We export images; they run software; then human review; then we import images back into system
Preliminary Results in Orange FL: Preliminary Results in Orange FL Based on 1998 – 2005 (7 years)
Roughly 13 million image pages
Total pages with masking/redaction = 320,000 (or 2.44% of the pages)
Note: overall % is not increasing as go back in time; there are fewer pages even as the occurrence of numbers to mask increases
IRS side note
Other Florida Counties: Other Florida Counties Completed/Done
3 counties: Pasco; Seminole; Marion
In process
The top 6 counties (48% of state population)
Estimate another 25+ under contract
Estimate 33 still deciding/evaluating
What’s happening in other states?: What’s happening in other states? Michigan
Texas
California
Michigan: Michigan Lawsuits by title firms against recorders
Bulk sale of images pricing
Reasonable cost issues
Who “owns” records/images
Texas: Texas Not many counties have images on the Internet
For one Clerk, it clearly became a campaign issue
Those who opposed having images on the Internet challenged the incumbent and made this issue a key campaign issue
Good news: the incumbent won handily
California: California Not all counties have images or index on web
Despite open public records act (of about 10 years ago)
More recent legislation requires that information be Internet-protected for law enforcement, public officials, and judges; but no requirement for self-identification; thus recorders unsure where such information exists
Sell records to private firms; prices vary, but it may not be more than the cost of providing the information
Legislation Passing/In Place: Legislation Passing/In Place Arizona
California
Colorado
Florida
Kansas
Michigan
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
Texas
Utah
Washington
Legislation Stalled/Died: Legislation Stalled/Died Maine
Missouri
Pennsylvania
Washington
PRIA’s Privacy Model Legislation: PRIA’s Privacy Model Legislation SSNAPP Act (Social Security Number and Privacy Protection Act)
Personal identifying information
Birth date
Social Security Number
Driver’s License Number
Financial Institution Account Numbers
Go forward basis
Responsibility/Liability falls on the document preparer who put the numbers on the document
States moving to enact: IA, ME, MO, PA, TX
Media Action/Reaction: Media Action/Reaction Scary story; gets immediate reaction; positive ratings impact
They tend to simplify, simplify, simplify
YOUR ss# is available to everyone
YOUR personal financial info is available to everyone
YOUR identity will be stolen
Recorder comments misused; perceived as defensive
Examples of Media Stories: Examples of Media Stories On-line newsletters
David Bloys
Kim Cameron’s Identity Weblog
Computer World (on line magazine)
Local News
All over Florida
Texas
National News
ABC
Paula Zahn, CNN
Public Official Savvy: Public Official Savvy What to say?
“Rules”:
Don’t lie
Don’t stonewall
Always tell the truth
Never say “no comment”
Don’t be afraid to say “I don’t know”
Be accessible
Accommodate the media
How to prepare?
Action, not reaction
Prepared sound bites
Internal to office versus Web: Internal to office versus Web Post signs
Train staff
Web privacy statement prominent
Web submission forms
Help us help you: Help us help you Tell us where you’ve found it
Commit to removing from public view; “covering it up”; redacting
Do not remove from the “as recorded” document (thus protecting the individual who will need the info in the future
Certified copy issue: of the “as recorded” or of the “as reflected/redacted”?
What can you do?: What can you do? Promote legislation?
Work with partners?
Provide “secure” access to “selected” customers?
Issue press release(s)?
Hold public hearing(s)/forum(s)?
Prepare sound bite?
Legislation in Your State: Legislation in Your State PRIA SNNAPP Act
Talk to legislators
Hard facts, not heart strings
Reasoned action; not unfortunate reaction
Contact Darity Wesley, Privacy Guru, Privacy Solutions; 619.670.9462; (darity@privacygurus.com)
Work with partners: Work with partners Who really needs what?
Who wants what?
Public versus necessary business use
Meet with title, escrow, lender customers; clarify needs and wants
Draw on PRIA
Talk, discuss, debate, decide
Secure Access to Select Few: Secure Access to Select Few Price for full/unmasked access
How secure is it?
User log in and password
Share within an office?
How define (defend) who gets this type of access?
Where are your written policies and procedures?
What’s your acceptable use policy?
Press Release(s): Press Release(s) Describe your “Consumer Privacy Protection” practices
Tell what you are doing
Answer the what, when, how and why questions
Use multiple releases
Put your releases on your web site
Send your releases to NACRC & PRIA
2 Oklahoma Examples: 2 Oklahoma Examples One recorder: we respect your privacy and you need to pay attention to what you are doing/allowing to appear on your documents; privacy is your responsibility as well as mine
Oklahoma Attorney General: based on recent situation for veterans, you need to explore your exposure; here’s what you can do; information on how to contact credit bureaus
Public Meeting(s) & Forum(s): Public Meeting(s) & Forum(s) Outline issues and state your Consumer Privacy Protection position (or practices)
Hold public meetings
Speak at Rotary, Kiwanis, Chamber, Land Title Association, County Bar meetings
Speak before your Board of County Commissioners
Do a segment for the county tv station?
Prepare Sound Bites: Prepare Sound Bites Memorize your 30-second sound bite
Help me help you; My Consumer Privacy Protection policy is…
Importance of public land records
Can’t close a real estate transaction in <30 days without public land records
As independent 3rd party, provide proof of ownership of land
Globalization of real estate = many countries want same public records (land & credit) as we have in the U.S.
Remember this: you can’t stop reporting of a story. You can only influence it.
Untouched Topics: Untouched Topics What did we not cover that you want to talk about?
Who would you like to hear from at our next conferences?
Thanks!: Thanks! Bob Terwilliger
Snohomish County Auditor
425.388.3472
bob.terwilliger@co.snohomish.wa.us
Lisa Goldsworthy
Recording Manager
Snohomish County Auditor’s Office
425.388.3713
lisa.goldsworthy@co.snohomish.wa.us
Carol Foglesong
Assistant Comptroller, Orange County Comptroller’s Office
407.836.5982
carol.foglesong@occompt.com